Quote Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface
this thread has descended into somewhat of a pointless debate. Im sorry but people cant complain about people putting their records up online stolen, only to reveal that they have pirated software on their systems. The amount of use of said software is totally irrelevant, if you have it, you have it. Simple.

Loads of great points in here that i think everyone would be better concentrating on
Its all starting to make my head hurt now, but there really have been some great points, including some that didn't get raised the last time this debate happened on such a large scale, so I reckon we're going around in a spiral rather than a circle, everytime we go around, theres a few more good ideas getting picked up on route.

One thing though, thats probably been nearly forgotten in the last 12 pages or whatever - whoever it was that put the demos for D.A.V.E's record up on soulseek before it was even released remains a twatface.