The UK Acid Techno Scene...

[Athar]

The scene isn't dead, I think its evolved alot. Ketamine, the law and file sharing non-record buying people are seriously damaging the scene.

Exacly

[Rog]

the original poster of this thread, sorry if orgot your name..

take a rig to the outside world of the woods during the summer months, its the only place that seems to have a party vibe..

back to the orbital ethos my friend..

[xes]

i think the club scene its getting loads more healthy, the numbers are on the up again and the vibes are excellent at the minute!

I think the main reason for this is because the free party scene,especially in london,has been f*cked over by crack head wankers. people want to party,but they want a safe enviroment to do so. You don't need to be looking out for cunts in dark corners who want to rinse your pockets and take what ever you have. they have killed the partry scene. And for that,I hate them.

It's been about respect for the fellow party person,ever since free parties began,this respect has flown out the window,because of crack head scum. I know free parties are all about freedom,and lawlessnes,but there has to be a line drawn. And that line has to be drawn under theiving wankers who think that free parties are a quick raise,and not a vibrant scene that it was once, and haven for all people who love music,and who want to express thier love for music by having a f*cking great night. After all,it's our f*cking right to party!!

It's a shame,and goes against the grain,but free parties need better security,it needs people to stand up to the gangs who work them. otherwise it's dead on it's feet. And people will turn to clubs with restrictions,and moody bouncers and licencing to worry about.
this is not what should be happening. but it's what IS happening. I'd rather be in a club where I know I'm not going to get skanked,I'd rather pay a tenner for a bit of saftey,ok my rights have been restricted,but you have to look out for yoursefl,and that's not allways easy when you're munted.

The internet has NOT killed the party scene,wankers have. If anything,the web has brought music to new people,to people who wouldn't have even know that this sort of thing still goes on. Viva la f*cking web.

sorry,i've kind of gone of on one :lol: But it still stands. Free parties are not dead,but it is on life support. And with people like the Tribe of Munt crew trying to bring it back,there will always be a "scene"

[mr burns]

i totally agree with everything you have said there, i also think your opinion of free party's is more towards london squat party's though, down this way people like storm and surge, (up until recently)) have been putting on free party's every week attractin anything up to thousends of people week in week out, and im never looking over my shoulder at these, and it is very rare you encounter any sort of trouble. just friendly ravers all with the same thing in mind. these sort of partys are going on all over the country every week.

[imported_sicknote]

agree with that completly.
its more the london scene that went bad and there are still good 'free parties' which i always thought of being the outside events...dodgy gangs and crack heads arent as willing to go out of london to some field so its stayed alive through them.
some sort of collective 'policing' within the squats would improve them....a sort of you watch my back i watch yours attitude...nothing militant, just the sort of attitude we all have...just should practice it more....if the scene matters that much to you do something about it.

[dan the acid man]

if you listen to people that used to run the old london rigs (like dirty bass), there's always been problems with drug gangs, addicts etc, but back then it sounds like rigs did stick together and watch each others backs

[rhythmtech]

i remember back in 97/98 when i was playin on Al wickers twisted rig. we used to go out everyweek with the immersion rig(when it wasnt impounded) and there was never any real trouble untill a certain "nameless" group started hangin out at our parties. it just went downhill from there. until one night i seen a lad get smacked with a big plank of wood over a bit of hash money. it happened right in front of the rig on a sunday afternoon. i certainly wasnt gonna step up to these lads.. but that killed it for me.

there was one small rig which shall remain nameless that just brought trouble with them everywhere they went. the rig owner was a gangster but seemed to get on well enough with me so i never had trouble off them... sometimes its better to be on the good side of these people.

[rowland the bastard]

cant yo see its all about money?

and... why does it always have to be about fcking london?

also... the muggers at alot of the parties in london would give 30% to the rig owners (not all but they know who they are)

now... i probably signed my own death warrent in my last statement but i stand by it

[rowland the bastard]

Well, Im new, but being part of Bio-Hazard has certainly made me into the sort of person who chucks in the tuppence worth:

The London scene is ****, fact. The big techno rigs, i.e Munt, Manik etc have either **** off to Europe or cant be arsed with all the shit that goes down. Fair play to Lee though I recon hes having a whale of a time.
We've been doing big parties in the UK and Europe for years, and I have noticed a decrease in punters. Once apon a time Hazard were in Mixmag, now people half a mile down the road have never even heard of a rave or freeparty. It has stagnated, but Techno is a DIY scene and will continue.

Also, Ketamin: people go to raves to snort this vile shite and dont care about what music is being played. Which leads me onto:

Perhaps Techno in the UK is maturing? As the ''muso's'' move away from illegal parties, by starting club night (Asbestos in Exeter. Sneaky plug!) a new (hopefully) breed of people may be attracted to the music we know and love. It might take a year or so, but I firmly believe that Techno music in the UK will become stronger, better and more popular than ever.

Sorry this post is shitly written, lot on my mind.

Anyway, nice forum, thanks for finally letting me join mark!

hiya judas, when you down in the mother county again?

[rowland the bastard]

as for manik, i heard that there not welcome back in this counrty for all the shit they caused at there parties

[rowland the bastard]

The scene isn't dead, I think its evolved alot. Ketamine, the law and file sharing non-record buying people are seriously damaging the scene.

devon and cornwall OB have serious funding this year and intend to stamp free parties out once and for all.

speaking to other hazard members last night i get the feeling we aint doing parties anymore and are moving into clubs, i know for fact that hazard as a collective have two venue's in devon and will be possibly doing once monthly, so a club night every other week, we wont be conflicting with the grove's night so there's three nights a month to goto for techno and hard edged music.

thats pretty healthy for devon.
so... all you people sick to the ears of crappy squat parties ( like me ) come on down to devon! do an e! eat a cream tea! hang out with me... roly LOL!

[judas_beast]

cant yo see its all about money?

and... why does it always have to be about fcking london?

also... the muggers at alot of the parties in london would give 30% to the rig owners (not all but they know who they are)

now... i probably signed my own death warrent in my last statement but i stand by it

Soon, theres a sheep I need to rape.

[judas_beast]

come on down to devon! do an e! eat a cream tea! hang out with me... roly LOL!

you missed 'fellate a sheep(e)'

[rowland the bastard]

anyone remember castle morton? diy? "point them out, we'll sort them out" free parties were the coming together of subverive underground people that didnt wish to conform to what society told them, we used to patrol our own parties people dancing were as much members of the rigs as the owners, if it wasnt for the people the rigs wouldnt be there, dont let rigs dictate you! we need to stick together, help each other!

[imported_sicknote]

too right....i know what rowland is saying ...ive never been on the other side of the rig in proper squat parties alot but i understand that dealing with that shit all the time will just make you fall out of love with em....clubs are great and its good there growing abit more now but i just reckon that free parties and squats kinda hold the essence of the scene...it gives it that edge which is what the music has and it'd b a big shame to see them die out completly just because of a bunch of crackheads and bent rigs....
its not just the rigs and the artists ...were all part of the scene so its up to all of us really....

[rhythmtech]

i really think setting has a lot to do with mood aswell.. i remember parties when the sun would be shining through the roof on a sunday morning in summer. that was the time to be dancing!! people were just smiling :)

[parsley909]

Ive found from doing the door at partys at London that a lot of the trouble comes from people that are ingrained in the sceene and have got friends contacts that are mates from other rigs and just got away with it for years!


We "Munt" were starting to get death threats from people cos we wouldnt let them in and it was going to get nasty soon so we have had to lay off the squats for a while i dont wana see my mates dead or harmed!


everybody knows who the trouble makers are at the london squat partys but some of these guys are right nasty bastards it used to be just the odd eliment of trouble by individuals and this could be stamped out!

but the crack muggings became part of the sceene even acepted cos it gave an edge by some people and they didnt get shit cos they were crew and the muggers knew them!

this is what was killing the scene yeah Munt have had some successfull partys over the past few years perivale springs to mind about 700 people and the only thing we heard back off all the punters was a coat went missing!


where can we take the scene from here?


yeah back outside for the summer when we can dodge the coppers good location is the deal i think goto make sure you dont piss of the locals

also security at squat partys we were getting there by not letting the wankers in but we were getting so much shit on the door!


also made it almost impossible for us to go to any other partys cos we would get done over!


anyway my rant over and my point was anyway that it got rotten from the inside

[disturbance303]

Must be said that the only illegal(ish) parties I get myself to are the Munt parties. Got sick of getting knives pointed at me and being robbed whenever i went for a piss in a corner of a warehouse or something.

Otherwise i stick to club nights like NFZ, Chemical Warfare, Section 63 etc etc. I still have a wicked time, with wicked music and great crowds - which is what its about at the end of the day.

Hats off to the Munt crew. The recent parties in Hackney Wick have been fantastic. Keep up the good work. Stonking.

Disturbance303

[tOM B]

devon and cornwall OB have serious funding this year and intend to stamp free parties out once and for all.

[tOM B]

devon and cornwall OB have serious funding this year and intend to stamp free parties out once and for all.

sorry mucked the last post up

i've heard this as well and i don't think it's just devon and cornwall either - i've heard that some forces are putting teams together especially to target parties and weren't there some rigs destroyed last year?

I guess a lot of crews will start heading to legitamate venues if this is the case but i don't think it will be the end of the scene. there's nowt wrong with partying in clubs and there will always be other places we can party - there's plenty of wide open spaces it just means travelling a bit further. my experience tends to be that the harder a party is to get to the less idiots and therefore the less trouble turns up.

Most of my partying has been done in the countryside and to be honest i haven't seen much trouble over the last eleven years, occasionally you get idiots but they're normally dealt with by the other party goers. I've always felt that parties in places like london and bristol have a darker side to them and to be honest i don't enjoy them as much as being out in the sticks... but they're not the only places parties happen and they can't stop all of us all the time can they?
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