**format wars** vinyl ? mp3 ? cd ? turntables ? ableton ?

[Miromiric]

it is true for techno, which is kinda sad&dull music and to get any excitement from it, you have to hold it in your hands. it is not true when it comes to good music, that you just want to listen to.

[rhythmtech]

not at all.. i've had an indie album released back when i was in a band and im a lot happier having a physical copy of it as a reminder of what i've done.

[dirty_bass]

I think it's dumb arguments on internet forums that's killing the scene, such as whether you're going to use a hoover or a dyson to clean the floor.. Mop vs Vileda supermop anyone? Cafetiere vs Perculator? Ford vs Vauxhall? or we could go for my old favourite, Amstrad vs Bush.... :s

It all amounts to

What is better
Climp or Clomp?

"My opinion is better"
"Actually, my opinion is better"

[StoQ]

I'm vinyl junkie and believe vinyl will survive and become an exclusive tool for fans of plastic.... but defo future is digital. i think there will be much bigger steps forward into techno.

the future could be for a 3d sound producers. could u imagine clubs where sound is flowing in 5.1 , 7.1 x.1?? totally space trip and thats what techno's about. unfortunatly its only possible for digital format

[Delinquent Dialect]

I'm vinyl junkie and believe vinyl will survive and become an exclusive tool for fans of plastic.... but defo future is digital. i think there will be much bigger steps forward into techno.

the future could be for a 3d sound producers. could u imagine clubs where sound is flowing in 5.1 , 7.1 x.1?? totally space trip and thats what techno's about. unfortunatly its only possible for digital format

theres already music in 5.1 surround sound, of the top of my head 'Tipper' for instance, he even did an album called 'surrounded'..and I know there are others. and yes they have preformed live in 5.1 ;)

[Delinquent Dialect]

the majority of people i have seen use ableton, use it just to mix tracks anyway. There is no creativity there. To me this is not live.

check out our live set, I posted on the forum someplace...anyway..we combince 3 laptops, plus outboard gear, old school effects, compressors, 808, machinedrum, sometimes the odd 101 or 303

and no we dont 'just hit play' lol and yes there are mistakes and no its not perfect, because we allow chaos to happen.

I have a pet peave about guys who use ableton and just mix their already mastered finished products...thats fuking gay, instead i like to treat it like a studio session, a jam...but with the knowledge that there are people listening so you've got to make it interesting.

[Delinquent Dialect]

here ya go wart an all...I see its been really popular lol, lots of hits lol

http://www.blackoutaudio.co.uk/forum...ad.php?t=43521

[rhythmtech]

I have a pet peave about guys who use ableton and just mix their already mastered finished products...thats fuking gay, instead i like to treat it like a studio session, a jam...but with the knowledge that there are people listening so you've got to make it interesting.

y?i think its showing a lot of courage to play your own stuff out.. its not always easy to do.

also not everyone has the knowledge to do a live set.. its a complicated thing and takes a lot of time. i know from my own experience that its not just a case of throwing loops from your trax into ableton.. i've been working on mine a long time now and i still play full tracks along side it as im not 100% happy with it yet.

[MARK ANXIOUS]

y?i think its showing a lot of courage to play your own stuff out.. its not always easy to do.

also not everyone has the knowledge to do a live set.. its a complicated thing and takes a lot of time. i know from my own experience that its not just a case of throwing loops from your trax into ableton.. i've been working on mine a long time now and i still play full tracks along side it as im not 100% happy with it yet.

i agree with every word of that :rockin:

[davethedrummer]

roland v drums and ableton
thats where i'm going

[davethedrummer]

and i'm going to grow some extra arms in a laboratory

[dan the acid man]

or you could buy some extra arms, im always hearing about those dodgy arms deals going off in the news lately:ohdear:

[koda]

yeh ill use ableton to throw midi to hardware but thats about it, im pretty unhappy about where ableton has taken djing and production in general, i cant appreciate a dj set played on ableton. its as good as an ipod...

[TechMouse]

or you could buy some extra arms, im always hearing about those dodgy arms deals going off in the news lately:ohdear:

FFS Dan...

:dans taxi:

[force]

roland v drums and ableton
thats where i'm going

seriously???

i've got an old simmons kit and i always fancied the idea of triggering loops from it through an alesis d4!

[dan the acid man]

FFS Dan...

:dans taxi:

you've got to let me off with this one, it's nearly christmas :ohdear:

[Miromiric]

yeh ill use ableton to throw midi to hardware but thats about it, im pretty unhappy about where ableton has taken djing and production in general, i cant appreciate a dj set played on ableton. its as good as an ipod...

exactly! and one other thing, don't you hate all the music that's made with software these days. it all sounds so software. hardware or burst!:;

[Ritzi Lee]

and i'm going to grow some extra arms in a laboratory

the first dj robot arms are already in development.
in the near future we can play with 4 arms, just by using a brain sensor for extra control.

[loopdon]

not true.. theres loadsa good stuff available legally.. just a case of finding it.

yep. if you scout around different forums and i would want to add

http://vivaliebtdichnicht.de/

head over to 'mytracks' and check what's on offer. then if you like sth. you could always pm the producer and ask if it's ok to play stuff out.

rob acid posts there as well and when it comes to quality techno then that's a place you shouldn't miss out on, imo. not to mention boa's production forums...

if that ain't as exclusive as a 500 copy whitelable i dunno :)

[the_psychologist]

I know psytrance isn't well liked here, but this guy made a video that details his Live techniques. it's a pretty interesting watch. when used well, a tiny laptop rig running Live allows for possibilities that no deck can touch. most people don't go nearly this far, however.

http://www.dailymotion.com/cosm/vide...ectronic-music