**format wars** vinyl ? mp3 ? cd ? turntables ? ableton ?

[dan the acid man]

discuss it all in here please, whats your preference.

do you love buying those big round bits of plastic ?
or do you prefer playing cd's, or downloading and using the latest mp3's with final scratch or ableton ?

this is the place for the format wars, let battle commence

[SlavikSvensk]

awesome...nice one dan!

now...VINYL FOREVER YOU TOSSERS! ;)

[rhythmtech]

to be honest it really doesnt matter what the current debate is cause its always the same. humans, it would seem to me, are very much against change, so no matter whether its mp3 vs. vinyl, analog vs. digital ... or whatever. theres always gonna be debates but what happens will happen.. i for one will keep buying mp3s and a little bit of vinyl that i cant get on mp3..

there you go. all sorted.

DAN.. you can close this thread now!!!

[g]

who cares.

[Dj-Richie-Parker]

does anyone have any concrete figures on the sale of vinyl etc, or anything concrete to suggest mp3 will take over vinyl...

i know it would be hard to nail down evidence like that but mabey someone here has some deeper insight into sales etc..???

I know people are gona say "stop worrying" just enjoy your vinyl etc, but id like to quench some fears :paranoid:

[Microdot]

does anyone have any concrete figures on the sale of vinyl etc, or anything concrete to suggest mp3 will take over vinyl...

i know it would be hard to nail down evidence like that but mabey someone here has some deeper insight into sales etc..???

I know people are gona say "stop worrying" just enjoy your vinyl etc, but id like to quench some fears :paranoid:

vinyl sales have dropped over 50% in the last 3 years or so.

[RDR]

Check out this from Gerd Leonhard

http://www.futureofmusicbook.com/mus...ing/index.html

its a big read, but well worth it. I dont guarantee you'll agree with it, but this is a speech he made at the recent AIM conference.

Keeping my eye on the ball here :;

[RDR]

vinyl sales have dropped over 50% in the last 3 years or so.

I think you need to qualify that a bit more jon. Do you mean Dance Vinyl sales?

From the BPI's site. It doesnt say about genre but clearly its about something other than techno... playing out with 7" records? ive done it, but it wasnt much fun. lol

Label support for physical singles

Sales of CD singles fell, but there was a further revival in seven inch vinyl; annual sales have increased from just over 200,000 units in 2000, to more than 1m units in 2006. 7” vinyl sales were up by 12.9% in the first half, with the White Stripes' Icky Thump the best seller.

[Microdot]

I think you need to qualify that a bit more jon. Do you mean Dance Vinyl sales?

From the BPI's site. It doesnt say about genre but clearly its about something other than techno... playing out with 7" records? ive done it, but it wasnt much fun. lol

sorry.
I meant House, Techno, Electro and Hip Hop vinyl sales have dropped by at least 50% over the last 3 or 4 years.
couldn't really say about the other genres, don't really know any producers who do DnB, Hardhouse etc

I've mixed with 7" singles before, not much fun and the sound quality is usually shite too.
nowdays I don't use vinyl at all.
for no other reason than I like to pick fights with arrogant cocks who shoot off at the mouth but don't know what the fcuk they're talking about (as tocsin can no doubt confirm). i.e. vinyl purists.

[rhythmtech]

for no other reason than I like to pick fights with arrogant cocks who shoot off at the mouth but don't know what the fcuk they're talking about

:lol: :lol: :lol: nice one jon!

[dirty_bass]

You`ve come in a bit late on this one man.
Records shops falling like flies, distributers too, even pressing plants now.
I know of two more record shops just this week.
There`s no heresay, vinyl IS dying.
It will never completely die, but the bubble has burst.
Time to get with the future.

[RDR]

Vinyl will die.. the means of production are leaving the planet and the young ones have little or no experience of touching it.

[oldbugger]

totally changed my views on this lately and i have been buying loads of mp3's off beatport.

i didnt have to go into town, i didnt have to talk shite to the knobhead in my local record shop or i dint have to go to the post office collection depot to pick up the records i have been waiting for all week either.

CD's have never really figured in my world and it seems cd's have been passed by already.. lets face it..whos gonna spend £1300 on a apir of good cd players when you can get a shit hot laptop and a legit copy of ableton and a decent controller for less?

like some tit i know has just done :lol:


loving the whole mp3 thing at the moment.

also i have a couple of hard drives rather than half my house being taken up.
;)

[dan the acid man]

back them upto dvd or cd though oldbugger, or you will cry if one of your hard drives goes down

[oldbugger]

back them upto dvd or cd though oldbugger, or you will cry if one of your hard drives goes down

will do mate..

got myself a nice big external harive recently to back up all my music on and a dvd writer.

got over 300gig of shit now :lol:

[Fusion]

i will stick with vinyl as long as possible

even if i have to ride my bicyle across the pond with floaters attached

i agree that if i were to switch it would be too mp3 and a laptop

i just have a hard time with the "virtual song"

i can't get past the element of the physical "thing"

[Miromiric]

i will stick with vinyl as long as possible

even if i have to ride my bicyle across the pond with floaters attached

i agree that if i were to switch it would be too mp3 and a laptop

i just have a hard time with the "virtual song"

i can't get past the element of the physical "thing"

funilly enough, those "physical "thangs"" were "virtual songs" one step earlier.

[Komplex]

as long as there are titties it doesnt really matter now does it?

[jk_scowling]

I think i'll keep buying vinyl as long as I can get the records I want on that format. Having said that , I did my first live set on ableton recently and really enjoyed using that. Not sure I'd use it for djing myself though, maybe because I can't be arsed to copy all my vinyl onto my computer... boring.

[djvitamind]

Yeah...I never thought I would make the switch...but I did...a couple years ago.

Actually I sold my turntables almost 10 years ago...I was djing so much back then the last thing I wanted to do when I got home was play records. I am starting to sell my vinyl here and there...more so cause I am sick of moving 10,000 records when I move.

There is a huge convenient factor for me. I mean being able to download a track from your hotel room right before You are about to play...well thats kinda nice.

I have had my laptop crap out on me a couple times...and that sucks...plus have heard djs play and all of a sudden there is no sound...let me tell you that is the longest rebooting time you will ever have to wait for.

Prices for releases are so cheap...almost too cheap.

As a record label owner...there are good and bad points. Vinyl is slowing down so bad. I have stopped all vinyl productions for Colorecordings. Watts filed for bankruptcy here in the US. They owed labels is excess of $150,000. That will hurt any independent label.

iTunes I think set the standard price. .99 is too low...its tough to turn over a profit unless you are selling a shit load of releases.

One thing the digital age is lacking is the whole feeling of holding it in your hands. The last releases I have signed have been digital only...and it just isnt as cool feeling. Sure you release is everywhere...but its not the same when you cant frame it up and put it on your wall.

D