**format wars** vinyl ? mp3 ? cd ? turntables ? ableton ?

[massplanck]

again its all how they prepare them

a lot of people just bang tracks and loops out with loads of fx without thinking bout the output sound from the master

a high quality analog modelling compressor and eq can make a world of differance.

yeah but thats the problem, alot of people arent thinking about the output sound of the mixer because before they didnt have to worry about it!

You dont need a high quality analog modelling compressor and external eq with a set of decks.

[rhythmtech]

You dont need a high quality analog modelling compressor and external eq with a set of decks.

which is exactly why some sets lack punch.

ableton is all to easy for every tom, dick & harry to just plug in and play - no understanding of how differant sounds work on differant systems.. but thats why the cream always rises.

we know this from vinyl too - sure, any joe soap can get a gig playing records, but he has to be good to get a second one.

im pretty sure that if my digital sets sounded flat and lacking oomph i probably wouldnt get 1/4 of the gigs that i do. but i make damn sure that i take the time to make sure they sound good.

[massplanck]

which is exactly why some sets lack punch.

ableton is all to easy for every tom, dick & harry to just plug in and play - no understanding of how differant sounds work on differant systems.. but thats why the cream always rises.

we know this from vinyl too - sure, any joe soap can get a gig playing records, but he has to be good to get a second one.

im pretty sure that if my digital sets sounded flat and lacking oomph i probably wouldnt get 1/4 of the gigs that i do.

I know that. You care about the sound. Its going through a proces of evolution at the moment. Its getting there.. but for me its not at the stage where every tom dick and harry can start digital djing and the *sound quality* is consistently savage.

Weve all had experience of shitty soundsystems. But now there seems to be the added worry of shitty sounding mp3s being pumped through a shitty system where as before you could at least be certain that the bits inbetween the trainwrecks were good quality! Aslo in the 90's you could be pretty sure that a release was mastered by someone who knew what they were doing, nowaday thats process is getting overlooked quite a bit with *some* digital releases. If you aint making the money of digital releases like you did on vinyl then you are gonna have to cut corners somewhere

One other thing about vinyl is the social aspect of it. I love going into a shop and chatting & meeting new people and talking face to face (not on the keyboard) about music. Seeing their facial expressions and shit. And its great when mates call around with bags of records and play music for each other. Its not the same if the all call up with laptops and nobody has a clue how to dj on the other persons setup (nevermind where their music can be found on the hardrive) and everyone spends more time ****ing with their own laptop then enjoying the communal hippy vinyl music buzz. ;)

[rhythmtech]

One other thing about vinyl is the social aspect of it. I love going into a shop and chatting & meeting new people and talking face to face (not on the keyboard) about music. Seeing their facial expressions and shit. And its great when mates call around with bags of records and play music for each other.

i still do that.. i just dont spend any money in the shop :lol: :lol:

nothing more fun than wasting sunil's time and then walking out empty handed.. even better if you make him reach up for the vinyls that are up high :lol:

[massplanck]

i still do that.. i just dont spend any money in the shop :lol: :lol:

nothing more fun than wasting sunil's time and then walking out empty handed.. even better if you make him reach up for the vinyls that are up high :lol:

[Sunil]

nothing more fun than wasting sunil's time and then walking out empty handed.. even better if you make him reach up for the vinyls that are up high :lol:

You better hope our crocodiles are in good form next time you step into the shop! I'm not so sure though, we haven't ejected any 'food' down to them in about 3 weeks..

[rhythmtech]

I know that. You care about the sound.

i think its also to do with playing my own tracks in wav format. if i was to play shitty low quality mp3s alongside them they would sound gash!

[massplanck]

i think its also to do with playing my own tracks in wav format. if i was to play shitty low quality mp3s alongside them they would sound gash!

WAV Purists are full of shit. ;)

[rhythmtech]

WAV Purists are full of shit. ;)

everything is shit for maxell 90 minute metal tapes with dolby NR..

although the 120 mins were cool they lacked the sound quality