the voidloss example and grovskopa arent as prominant as wunsch and mulero. ive only heard both use it the once (grovskopa in the 1st tune in an Emergence mix), and it isnt as relied on as much as the spanish 2, both of who get a bit of stick for going OTT with it.

holotropik, that makes sense, ill give that a try... ive tried doubling up basslines, but not a kick with a bass. nice1.
im sure steve doesnt want to give away his secrets, oh wait he just gave all them away :) :)