Didn't know this thread was still kicking around. I've been listening to some of the suggestions here, still not finished. Seems to be that the style of hard techno that I am looking for doesn't exist yet or when it existed last it was 1993. Most of the suggestions are like funkey breaks which don't have a 4/4 909 downbeat like techno does. The sound I'm looking for is more or less identical to something like Andre Walter or Mike Humphries but with an amen or think running in the background (chopped up or played straight) for midrange and high frequency percussion fill giving it a more dancy feel. The only recent track I heard (and apparently its not that recent) that even comes slightly close is regis - ausgang and I don't even think thats an amen but it has a simmilar feel.