New In Hard Trance

**Addict** · 04-09-2003, 11:03 AM

What producers do you see as doing something fresh in hard trance, please don't say Jay Walker because although he's talented he's got the Scot Project syndrome. I'm talking about producers taking the sound forward without going into hardstyle. These are the ones to watch if we want hard trance to survive the Hardstyle revolution.

**Addict** · 04-09-2003, 11:04 AM

Unless of course you want the two to become one...
This is in no way an anti hardstyle post I simply want to get peoples opinions.

**Si the Sigh** · 04-09-2003, 11:14 AM

Not just being biased because they are my mates, but I really do think some of the stuff being produced by Log:one & BenEye is class! DJ Abyss and Chris Hare have always impressed with their tunes as well. Maybe its time for the smaller DJ's to start producing and bringing in something new, their own sound. The hard trance scene does need a fu*king good kick up the poo chute...

**DJ RE:HAB** · 04-09-2003, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Addict

What producers do you see as doing something fresh in hard trance, please don't say Jay Walker because although he's talented he's got the Scot Project syndrome. I'm talking about producers taking the sound forward without going into hardstyle. These are the ones to watch if we want hard trance to survive the Hardstyle revolution.

Jay Walker........... :D

Had to do that sorry,

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You are right about jay walker as a producer though addict, very formulated, each tracks are laid out exactly the same *Yawn*....

I have'nt really been on the ball with for a while, but if i give an opinion, i would probably have to suggest a someone that produces along the same sort of lines as Kramer/Progodl.. you just can't beat some of the releases from Junk project and his other alias's.. On that though i would love to see a return of the older overdose sound, The Darkness, Drugs. :D

**Addict** · 04-09-2003, 12:52 PM

I really feel that darknes has been lost in hard trance aside from Kraemer of course (super bitch need I say more), most stuff that is dark and evil is labeled as Hardstyle.
Now I'm starting to lose track of just what exactly hardstyle is, and more and more of it is starting to sound like the good ol days of evil hard trance, where as hard trance seems to mostly uplifting nowadays.

You could almost say that the sound hasn't changed at all just the labelling of the sound, I don't know, maybe, Hmmmmmmmm.

Or maybe I'm just completely out of touch.

**K Front** · 04-09-2003, 01:33 PM

I know what you mean addict, i used to go on a dutch hardstyle forum a lot an they labelled Uberdruck as hardstyle.. :?

**Addict** · 04-09-2003, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Sargent J

I know what you mean addict, i used to go on a dutch hardstyle forum a lot an they labelled Uberdruck as hardstyle.. :?

Yeah but he also labels himself as hardstyle.

**dj vorny** · 04-09-2003, 01:42 PM

yes a lot of the harder hartrance gets labeled as HARDSTYLE dont know why :? HARDSTYLE has a destinctive sound to it 8) 8) much more ruffer

imo hardtrance is much weaker and HARDSTYLE is more agressive

8)

**Addict** · 04-09-2003, 01:59 PM

Pick a tune that defines Hardstyle for you Vorny (with a link). I'm curious.

**K Front** · 04-09-2003, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Addict

Originally Posted by Sargent J

I know what you mean addict, i used to go on a dutch hardstyle forum a lot an they labelled Uberdruck as hardstyle.. :?

Yeah but he also labels himself as hardstyle.

Im not talking about there newer stuff, im talking about the older hard trance they produced..

**Carl** · 04-09-2003, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by dj vorny

yes a lot of the harder hartrance gets labeled as HARDSTYLE dont know why :? HARDSTYLE has a destinctive sound to it 8) 8) much more ruffer

imo hardtrance is much weaker and HARDSTYLE is more agressive

8)

Hardtrance weaker? dont you mean more melodic and uplifting?!?!?!

**dj vorny** · 04-09-2003, 03:37 PM

hardtrance is uplifting :) i like hardtrance :) ,but :D HARDSTYLE :D on the other hand is pure power :D

**Addict** · 04-09-2003, 03:39 PM

easy on the emoticons mate you'll do yourself an injury :lol: I'm waiting for this tune then...

**Si the Sigh** · 04-09-2003, 03:44 PM

techno is power Vorny...

**dj vorny** · 04-09-2003, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Si the Sigh

techno is power Vorny...

im just starting to get interested in techno si

i think its cool 8)

**Si the Sigh** · 04-09-2003, 03:55 PM

i love my techno mate. all forms. IMO, the way i see hardstyle (and this is no diss to it at all) is that some of it is slowed down hardcore techno. don't you think? do you like DJ's such as Scorpio & Producer or anything? Im going to make this a new thread in the hardstyle section i think...

**Addict** · 04-09-2003, 04:13 PM

I think this whole thing went off topic in the 1st post :lol:
Jay you weren't moderating!!

**dj vorny** · 04-09-2003, 04:15 PM

innit hardtrance will always be uplifting and HARDSTYLE banging

8) 8) nuff sed :D

**Addict** · 04-09-2003, 04:20 PM

yeah but Hardstyle was a harder form of hardtrance before someone gave it a name, who was that????

**DJCraig Ryan** · 04-09-2003, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by dj vorny

innit hardtrance will always be uplifting and HARDSTYLE banging

8) 8) nuff sed :D

Hard Trance always Uplifting?? I know and own loads of Non-Uplifting Hard Trance! Just to name a few look at S. Puppen and A*S*Y*S etc etc
Stuff Like Acid Headcracker, Future Prison, Warriors etc etc

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