Starting out.

[Elvio Neto]

if you use reason take a look in http://www.reasonstation.net

you can download reffils and presets for all reason machines maked by de community

you can upload your songs for feedback and download songs of any style or substyle

its the best way to start learning to use reason :)

[RDR]

The subtractor is a fabulous synth and as for the maelstrum... you're joking, its amazing. Very different sounding.

BTW read the manual for the both synths... were you aware the subtractor is capable of producing 4 waveforms???? Try using the phase switches and dials and modulating them... its a bloodt monster.

[rounser]

The subtractor is a fabulous synth and as for the maelstrum... you're joking, its amazing. Very different sounding.

Exactly. The subtractor is an excellent synth and has more patches made for it than maybe any other synth, ever....there's just a lot of crap patches out there for it as a result. You can get results from it though; for instance, Mylo says he searched through hundreds of free bass patches he found online before he settled on the ones you hear on his tracks, and they're very phat. Hardware synths and VSTis alike generally have built-in effects, so to compare subtractor fairly to them you should hook up some combination of scream 4, unison, chorus, vocoder in eq mode, reverb and delay in Reason....should make things sound very sick indeed.

IMO, Maelstrom is very good at FX and novel stuff, although it suffers from the problem that most non-subtractive synths do, which is that it's not as easy to program quality bread and butter sounds as on a basic subtractive synth. I don't have the patience for it, nor do I like the patches people generally make with it, which are often difficult to fit into a track; too much effort to get results that can be much better and more easily achieved through a sampler or rompler....but then, I feel that way about most synths.

(I learnt on Reason, but Renoise + ERA suits me better.)

[TechMouse]

check this venetian snares video using renoise....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGK-EzEa45U

Crikey, that brings back memories...

[dirty_bass]

check this venetian snares video using renoise....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGK-EzEa45U

Crikey, that brings back memories...

Me too, I started out with MED, and then moved on to OctoMed.
In fact we used to use it as our sequencer playing live in our industrial band, back when I was a drug fueled rock star haha.
The great thing about octamed was that you could load in any file as a sample, games, pictures etc, and it made crazy noises.
8 bit madness.

[TechMouse]

I still have loads of masters of old (shit) tunes I did on OctaMED.

In fact, I still have some tunes which started life on the Amiga version, and I moved them across with CrossDOS.

[Sinister_Minister]

Well there ya go...I've been served. You guys got me all excited about the Reason synths now. Just gotta get in there and screw with the parameters more. Lots to learn. Thank you for the boot in the arse.

[TechMouse]

Well there ya go...I've been served.

Which of course can only mean one thing...

.... It's on.

[TechnoNRGKid]

I agree with dodgyedgy.
Download the demos for a few and see how you like em.
Reason, FL studio and Ableton live i recommend to try out.
I personally started out with FL studio and have many great memories with it.
I think you might like that one. Reason was never a fave for me, although i like the Matrix Sequencer and Subtractor synth.