i have to agree with mark. it's as if the producers of schranz realized they have soiled their genre's name with crap production and covering up bad mixdowns with distrotion (99%of what's in that genre), and are looking for a cheap easy way to get out of that rut, ie. genre name change. I see a lot of schranz producers trying to argue this point and really confusing the hell out of people that are A) new to all this, and B) not from Germany/near there C) stop trying to call what was hard techno before in your eyes as hardgroove. I say keep calling it schranz but try make it better, and maybe it's image will turn around.