Quote Originally Posted by Xavi
how can something over 150 - 160 bpm be called techno??? that type of muzik is much more closer to gabba and hardcore .... ?? for me the 1st such muzik lacks to be called tecchno is the fact thatit laccks definiton and inteligence [but YES schranz can be inteligent and innovative !! and TECHNO even ]..

the originator of the word Schranz [ translation : REAL DANCE MUSIC ] .. Chris Liebing makes it as it;s supose to be .. it;s schranz , >>> .. u can dance to it and it;s hard too .. :devilish: now that can be called techno

unlike the stuff that;s being called schranz at the momnet.. wich i s just blatant headbanging like gabba and hardcore ..

globaly there is a low level of profesionalism regarding production ... 90% of schranz production is just plain bad ... and calling that type of music hardTECHNO just gives techno a bad name .. :roll:

hyper production of shitty [funky loopy bongo, conga ] techno made this possible to happen .. quality is not important as sales anymore ...and that is killing the music // making me think how much is good quality music important anymore ?? and do people deffer it from rest of the shit that;s being put out there ..

and what i dislike also is the fact scrazners are confusing ppl that are new into the music [looks to me many producers are newbies too], taking the name hardtechno and labeling hardtech as hardgroove .. ??? wtf is that about .. ?? plz be REAL !!

hardtechno is much TOUGHER and harder than this thing they call schranz if u ask me ..

their schranz music drifted away from the true meaning of the word ... TECHNO ..and I cannot label it as such ..

it is suposed to be MUSIC >>


PS, i agree with Mark , Patrick and Mita .. too
Could not have said it better.
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