The thing is with owen he can be really quiet for 88 mins then score the all important goal like before Xmas when he was really quiet for 88 mins vs the Argies and he scrored 2 clinical headers.

I think the plan was for him to play 60 mins last night and then the full 90 saturday. Think he needs a goal saturday though just for confidence.

Yeah I agree, don't think we needed so many midfielders, even Jenas is not good enough for that level. That extra place would of benefit england more with Defoe there.