Mark Williams

**The Overfiend** · 26-09-2003, 01:01 AM

Ehrlin Rocks. In a studio!

**Sunil** · 26-09-2003, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by Sam_Horam

And just taking Ingoma... I think it's a great label... some great records on there... sure there's been a lot released in a short time... but to suggest that they're just churning them out is wrong if you ask me... do you honestly believe it's for the money (as someone on this thread said) or because that's what they wanted to write?

i liked the label for a bit too, and i still listen to the new ones and know what they are about BUT I think they've made very little progress in developing the sound into something new and feel that many of the producers involved would be better trying something else; sure you can say the same thing about hard techno but not every hard techno track has an almost indentical sounding drum loop in it. Re:money, i think you slightly misunderstood me, it's easier for him to roll out Ingoma after Ingoma at the moment because it's in fashion, and that's a natural thing to do I guess, but i feel he has plumped for quantity over quality too much over the last few years when he could have got more interesting results from his artists..

**Angrymann** · 26-09-2003, 11:33 AM

Jim , you made some good points there and I don't disagree that a lot of the hard stuff sounds very similar too. Like I said though , it's easy for me to point the finger and say "it's all getting sameish" as I am not doing any producing so what the **** do I know. But I do sort of feel it's sometimes an abuse of talent when a producer's sound becomes very similar track after track. These guys already have a bank of equipment and a vast knowledge of writing and producing tracks that guys like me would kill for , so I guess it's my own personal frustration that comes out when I listen to a record , sometimes I just think " oh come on guys , you can do better than this".

It's not jealousy or complaining for complainings sake , I think everyone that's into techno wants to see it evolving and improving all the time , to keep it exciting and I just don't think the Tribal sound is doing that. I do however agree that the tribal sound is still valid , it does sound great when mixed properly with other tracks of a different style. There should just be more variation.

**miles** · 26-09-2003, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

I agree, But I am talking about the Sims sound
Not the Uk Surgeonesque Ruskin Breakbeat sound, thats king right there
Didnt mean to be misconstrued. :lol:

Ruskin breakbeat , i can't recall him using breakbeats?????

**The Overfiend** · 26-09-2003, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by miles

Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

I agree, But I am talking about the Sims sound
Not the Uk Surgeonesque Ruskin Breakbeat sound, thats king right there
Didnt mean to be misconstrued. :lol:

Ruskin breakbeat , i can't recall him using breakbeats?????

r u kidding?

**miles** · 26-09-2003, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

Originally Posted by miles

Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

I agree, But I am talking about the Sims sound
Not the Uk Surgeonesque Ruskin Breakbeat sound, thats king right there
Didnt mean to be misconstrued. :lol:

Ruskin breakbeat , i can't recall him using breakbeats?????

r u kidding?

no, let me know some tracks, obviously iv'e missed some.

**miles** · 26-09-2003, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by miles

Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

Originally Posted by miles

Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

I agree, But I am talking about the Sims sound
Not the Uk Surgeonesque Ruskin Breakbeat sound, thats king right there
Didnt mean to be misconstrued. :lol:

Ruskin breakbeat , i can't recall him using breakbeats?????

r u kidding?

no, let me know some tracks, obviously iv'e missed some.

It also depends what your definition of a breakbeat is.
I suppose he does use sampled breaks over a 4/4 kick.

sorry my mistake ;)

**Jimfish** · 29-09-2003, 07:30 PM

i just got that phont ep by mark today and i FU*KING LOVE IT!!

**Jimfish** · 29-09-2003, 07:32 PM

he also sent down an ingoma one but that wasnt really my bag though...

Herman: is that ur remix on the new real sessions? tasty beats, best on the ep methinks.. but whats going on with stannys mix??

**spiralx** · 29-09-2003, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Jimfish

i just got that phont ep by mark today and i FU*KING LOVE IT!!

Picked it up yesterday, listening to it now and remembered there was a thread on him here and thought I'd check it out :) Definitely enjoying this record.

**The Overfiend** · 29-09-2003, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by Jimfish

he also sent down an ingoma one but that wasnt really my bag though...

Herman: is that ur remix on the new real sessions? tasty beats, best on the ep methinks.. but whats going on with stannys mix??

Whats up with Stanny period?
What happened to kompressorkanonen remixes and the stuff on countdown 2000 hes funky as f*ck now.

**Sunil** · 29-09-2003, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

Whats up with Stanny period?
What happened to kompressorkanonen remixes and the stuff on countdown 2000 hes funky as f*ck now.

"Playing with the blox" on Zenit was a brilliant album, one of the best of this year.

**The Overfiend** · 29-09-2003, 10:48 PM

Hmmmmm i guess I was more a fan of his harder edge

**Jimfish** · 29-09-2003, 11:38 PM

i foooking love stanny franssen, he is one of my favourite techno bods.. but i just dont quite know what he is trying to say on this one.. it sounds like acid techno with hoovers

**Jimfish** · 29-09-2003, 11:39 PM

but at least he is trying somthing different!

**Sunil** · 30-09-2003, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

Hmmmmm i guess I was more a fan of his harder edge

Well I did tend to prefer his G-Force stuff too, but he is still worth a listen. Genetic is a good label, has toughened up a bit recently. If he's recording for the likes of Terminal M or Intec you can forget about it, most of his other stuff though is still quality techno.

**herman** · 30-09-2003, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Jimfish

he also sent down an ingoma one but that wasnt really my bag though...

Herman: is that ur remix on the new real sessions? tasty beats, best on the ep methinks.. but whats going on with stannys mix??

yes mate that one is mine for my sins i havn't heard stanny's yet though , is there vinyl now then ? im with you on the phont e.p as well the mj sampling track just kills in a club

**Jimfish** · 30-09-2003, 03:49 PM

yeah, tps fresh in - i think si recieved some at the office today..

**Jimfish** · 01-10-2003, 07:13 PM

nah, ur not on that one

its a mark broom remix...

i think urs must be the next one herman

**miles** · 01-10-2003, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by herman

Originally Posted by Jimfish

he also sent down an ingoma one but that wasnt really my bag though...

Herman: is that ur remix on the new real sessions? tasty beats, best on the ep methinks.. but whats going on with stannys mix??

yes mate that one is mine for my sins i havn't heard stanny's yet though , is there vinyl now then ? im with you on the phont e.p as well the mj sampling track just kills in a club

Another highly original EP from the bongo brigade ;)

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