PAID - Producers Against Illegal Downloads...

[RDR]

to care about something orsomeone you must have a vested interest in it, be it emotional or financial

[TechMouse]

Its just a bit of education. Its not going to single handedly turn around happy hardcore's fortunes, but reminding people to buy rather than steal is hardly something to get pissed off about.

Oh, agreed - but I'm not really getting pissed off. I think it's borderline admirable but ultimately futile.

Telling people to buy cheap high quality rather than steal free low quality seems to be an straigh forward and well received message.

Also agreed.

[Jay Pace]

Wasn't directed at you mate, they really seem to have got ole tocsin's back up...

[fresh_an_funky_design]

So they should presumably just shut up, roll over and die without a fuss?

Not at all...

They should be looking for ways to embrace and exploit the opportunities offered by global high-volume high-quality digital audio distribution at next-to-no cost.

Rather than crying about it and starting campaigns telling people how naughty they are, and lamenting the loss of the good ole' days when exchanging music wasn't so damned easy.

the problem with mp3's are the sales are crap, i have embraced the digital revolution with more punk than funk and to be honest at the moment its not really that great. yes there are no distribution costs, but we sell a hell of a lot more vinyl than mp3. maybe sales will increase over the next year.

whoever said the market has shrunk is 100% right, to be honest i don't think mp3's have harmed the techno market at all, they've prob done a lot more good than harm.

blaming mp3's is just an easy way of putting answers to falling sales

[dirty_bass]

I`ve recently done the jump to mp3 releases, and I`m very pleased.
Sales are great.
It`s almost worth giving vinyl the chop.

[dan the acid man]

well im trying to just buy mp3's now instead of vinyl, although there are some releases that you can't get :(

[fresh_an_funky_design]

I`ve recently done the jump to mp3 releases, and I`m very pleased.
Sales are great.
It`s almost worth giving vinyl the chop.

really? who you with? we're with trackitdown, out of hand and juno (when it launches) and for us its not brlliant, its not that bad but its got a long way to go before it becomes our main format

[dan the acid man]

i bought steves mp3's off djdownloads

[rhythmtech]

I`ve recently done the jump to mp3 releases, and I`m very pleased.
Sales are great.
It`s almost worth giving vinyl the chop.

really? who you with? we're with trackitdown, out of hand and juno (when it launches) and for us its not brlliant, its not that bad but its got a long way to go before it becomes our main format

juno digital has been launched a while now joe ;)

[djshiva]

I`ve recently done the jump to mp3 releases, and I`m very pleased.
Sales are great.
It`s almost worth giving vinyl the chop.

really? who you with? we're with trackitdown, out of hand and juno (when it launches) and for us its not brlliant, its not that bad but its got a long way to go before it becomes our main format

i LOVE trackitdown (although it is a mite expensive for us in the US). some really great shit on there. i have bought more tunes online in the last 3 months than i have bought on vinyl in a long time.

[fresh_an_funky_design]

I`ve recently done the jump to mp3 releases, and I`m very pleased.
Sales are great.
It`s almost worth giving vinyl the chop.

really? who you with? we're with trackitdown, out of hand and juno (when it launches) and for us its not brlliant, its not that bad but its got a long way to go before it becomes our main format

juno digital has been launched a while now joe ;)

has it! well u can get mptf on there as well then

[rhythmtech]

whats out of hand joe? i searched last night but couldnt find anything :(

[fresh_an_funky_design]

sorry its actually 'for your ears' got the name confused with a printing company for some reason
https://foryourears.com/frames.php?m...mp;sub=news_71

there's only a couple of releases on there by us, still waiting for them to upload the rest

[Jay Pace]

I spend a lot of money with beatport and bleep.com

I hate being forced to buy vinyl I don't want at extortionate prices just because someone doesn't want to release digitally.

Producers For Legal Downloads would have a lot more success.

Although PFLD isn't the snappiest acronymn

[fresh_an_funky_design]

I spend a lot of money with beatport and bleep.com

I hate being forced to buy vinyl I don't want at extortionate prices just because someone doesn't want to release digitally.

Producers For Legal Downloads would have a lot more success.

Although PFLD isn't the snappiest acronymn

beatport have some of the worst customer service i have ever encountered. it takes them 2/3 weeks to reply to each email each time with some bullshit excuse with why its taken them so long

[Adrenalin]

For those digital DJ's in North America, I highly recommend:

http://www.2thebeatdigital.com/

It's due to be launched any day now.

IMO, if you use a track to play out at a gig, you should pay for it. The exception being if the track isn't available on vinyl anymore and idiots are charging way too much for a used copy, then I say go ahead and download the track from Soulseek or someplace like that. Or if you are looking to download some mixes from shows, etc. People just need to think beyond their selfishness and look at the larger picture. Just my opinion though.

[mattboyslim]

i'm still undecided on mp3. it is quick and convenient for ableton, but I hate the fact that it isn't a physical product to hold and smell. Nothing to sell on either should you decide that its the end of the road. I'll be buying both for the forseeable future. And as my mate owns a record shop which he runs as a hobby, as he's an architect by trade, then I can see it being a fairly lengthy forseeable future

[davethedrummer]

rubbish....all of it
and the music too...crap.....i mean its techno isn't it ??

anyway.........

i just like the little lights on the front.......
and the way the cute little tray comes out and goes back in when you touch it ever so softly .......like a young girl.
storing your music on a removable usb drive just doesn't quite give me the same thrill , like ejecting the removable disk from the desktop and all that.
nothing like sliding a good well balanced cdr into position i can tell you.



( this was taken from "future forum arguments vol 1" year 2010) :techno:

[Sunil]

Fair play to them. The organisations they are against are scum. Speaking out against these websites, and trying to educate is a good thing. I just wish the laws regarding illegal filesharing and the people who run these sites, gets *a lot* stricter. Wipe the ****ers out.

[tocsin]

Wasn't directed at you mate, they really seem to have got ole tocsin's back up...

Of course they get my back up, I hate it when people decide to form fake organizations to speak for me, especially when they are hypocritical in the process.