to be honest i think you were perfectly right posting it here loopdon. so what if its not going on the label (thats steves choice for his label and not everything is gonna suit or be good enough. thats just how it is). but by posting you've given others a chance to give you ideas and help you out, which at the end of the day will do you a lot more good than just pm'ing steve with it. theres a very small number of us regularly posting in here and we do try to give advice as much as we can and we need to keep doing that.