Is there a correlation between house and techno?

**The Overfiend** · 22-07-2006, 03:34 AM

Ian Pooley is also on this list for being awesome at both.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhfWWX_vLqM

**module** · 22-07-2006, 03:50 AM

my fave clubs always played both, and the really good ones ? well, ya couldnt spot the join ;)

**Spire** · 22-07-2006, 06:12 AM

house belongs in gay clubs.

**koma** · 22-07-2006, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Spire

house belongs in gay clubs.

and you are regular visitor there
so you know?

**loopdon** · 22-07-2006, 04:19 PM

nothing wrong with having a house area. what's this gay bullshit?

**The Overfiend** · 23-07-2006, 01:46 AM

Most house producers I know get a ton of girls
Dj Sneak
Cajmere
Armand Van Helden
Junior Sanchez
These guys have no problems with baggin em up...

**RDR** · 23-07-2006, 01:59 AM

Jesus.. what an amazing thread..

House and techno a correlation?

Thats just daft... of course there is... go and read 'Last night a DJ saved my life'

Armand van helden 'Boogie Monster' more techno than a lot of techno i heard...

Takes it back to what Juan Atkins said... (i could be mis-quoting here) 'Techno is any sound in a tune your never heard before'

Techno defies catagorisation... house doesnt appear to exhibit the same qaulities until your start listening to people like Dan Curtain... his early stricly rhtytm stuff was rocking and its always been the way that NY based house had a tinge of electronica attached to it...

As long as its funky and electronic and makes yo' ass move, what does it matter. i love good quality music, from all genres.. to diferentiate is a WASTE OF TIME.

Good music.. is just good music.

**The Overfiend** · 23-07-2006, 02:22 AM

I'm not saying I didn't know if there was a connection.
I'm saying why do some producers shift focus to, and starting discussion.

**The Overfiend** · 23-07-2006, 06:54 AM

To mock peoples interest in discussion is more so daft.
In my opinion.
A lot of people love House and Techno
Concurrently.

**holotropik** · 23-07-2006, 07:16 AM

More girls go out to listen to house...than techno, simple.

**RDR** · 23-07-2006, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

I'm not saying I didn't know if there was a connection.
I'm saying why do some producers shift focus to, and starting discussion.

o.k. antonio, fair play. The way i see it is that there IS no difference. It isnt even a question for me. Maybe my reaction there was a little more incredulous thn you would have liked...

but i still gave my opinion, and if you read it u'd see i was agreeing with you...(armand van helden etc)

The two genres are so vastly intertwined... also i didnt see it was your thread, had i done so i would have treated it differently. its just not a question i would expect off you, kinda threw me. no disrespect meant.

and clearly i wasnt belittling the discussion otherwise i wouldnt have joined in now would I.

Never mind .. more excuses for you to blank me on msn ... not that you needed one... :lol:

cya.

**eyeswithoutaface** · 23-07-2006, 10:50 AM

well in all fairness, the thread title and the thread content are confusing. The title ask's if there is a correlation between house and techno, whilst the content isnt the same, it's simply Tony stating his annoyance in some of his fave producers going in another direction

i wouldnt of thought anyone using the board would seriously need the relationship between house and techno explaining to them really

**The Overfiend** · 23-07-2006, 05:50 PM

Kind of sort of sort of kind of.
It was more of a why do you think this occurs kind of thing.
I have nothing against damn good house.
It's just that certain aspects of it are not so good.
For example my opinion is that the Luke material he does of late, is uber sell out ish,
Meanwhile Kenny Larkin or Saunderson when they do house it's damn good and has a great amount of artisitic integrity to it.

**eyeswithoutaface** · 23-07-2006, 07:00 PM

yeah have to agree there

i think to sum it up it's probably a combination of musical maturity, age, years spent in the business, possible lack of cash etc etc

human nature i guess? curiousity to try new things, your personal situation at the time etc

i know what you mean though. There is some awful, woeful house music out there as well as the good stuff

give me MAW anyday

**dirty_bass** · 24-07-2006, 01:22 AM

I think any producer who`s been at it for a while needs and will want to spread out to try other things at some point. I`d say it`s natural and inevitable.
To make just techno forever, or just house forever etc, is a horrible thought.
Plus branching out allows you to take techniques and ideas from each genre and cross them over to each other.
So that`s why I guess some producers do it, although money probably has something to do with it as well.
If you are approaching whatever music you do creatively and honestly, I don`t think it matters a damn what you do.

**Jay Pace** · 24-07-2006, 01:18 PM

Techno has a different attitude to house. It has a rawness and an edge to it that house smoothes over.

I'd also say that techno generally has more of a focus upon rhythmn than melody or hook, whereas in house rhythmn tends to be the backing rather than centre stage.

Essentially though house and techno are two sides of the same coin. Same instruments, same samples, same machines, same heritage, same clubs, similar crowds...

I think techno is more akin to abstract or impressionist art.
The motivators are different, as is the appeal.

I really like the fact that joey beltram wasn't trying to make techno. Why the hell should you make music to fit within a certain genre? Much more intersting to make music and for it to be intepreted by djs or crowds...

I doubt Mr Oizo ever foresaw his tracks being used by everyone to different ends. Levis ads? Trance? Breaks? Techno?

**The Overfiend** · 24-07-2006, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

Some have done it excrutiatingly right
Like Cajmere aka Green Velvet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcsqoPiSF5Q

could not something like this be considered both?
wouldnt the line be very dim at this point?
same for the uc brand of chitown jack for years on end.

oldbugger · 24-07-2006, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by SummerOfSam

Some have done it excrutiatingly right
Like Cajmere aka Green Velvet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcsqoPiSF5Q

could not something like this be considered both?
wouldnt the line be very dim at this point?
same for the uc brand of chitown jack for years on end.

not either in my opinion. just a load of shite pop bollocks

most of the stuff i love is on the very fine line between the two. is there even a line ? does anyone care? why do we need to define everything?

i had people coming up saying to me the other night "i thought u were doing a house set" :lol:

i was.

Techno has a different attitude to house. It has a rawness and an edge to it that house smoothes over.

I'd also say that techno generally has more of a focus upon rhythmn than melody or hook, whereas in house rhythmn tends to be the backing rather than centre stage

theres so much quality dirty as f*ck house out there that makes thats so untrue. not slagging off the comment or anything though.

i wish more of the techno crowd would check out the good house out there. i bet there would be some supprises

**eyeswithoutaface** · 24-07-2006, 07:45 PM

yeah house has a bad image of complete cheesy smoothness, when more often than not it couldnt be any further from the truth. Some of the best house music ive heard has been the rawest most loosely produced music ive heard, yet it seriously gets under the skin and stays there.

id put my last tenner on the line and state that practically everyone will have danced to at least 5 house records in their time whilst out in a club and thought it was techno

**davethedrummer** · 24-07-2006, 11:02 PM

i don't think techno is necessarily harder than house
or more " raw " or more " aggresive "
to me they are pretty much one in the same on many levels.

but techno is largely more abstract
house is musically more traditional.

i reckon

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