Hardstyle & Hardbass.....

[Tom @ Religion]

Okay so I've been hearing the term Hardbass for a while now and it's taken me this long to find out what's goin off...

1) I'm not really into all the pidgeon holing business I'd rather it go under the Hardstyle banner as it just sounds *sweeet*.

2) Hardbass is the stuff with the heavy gabber like kicks and no wwwwoomp basslines... But if this is the difference between hardstyle n hardbass where do you put a producer like Deepack????? Here's Johnny is definately Hardstyle, where as DownLow is Hardbass??? **** knows.

People shouldn't even try to put an artist to one style anyway but **** knows why they always try to.

I think it's all bollocks, **** pidgeon holing its all about bein unique at the end of the day what do you lot reckon?

Haha this posts a bit all over the shop I just read it back but hope some of u see where I'm comin from!

Tom

[baptismo]

Totally totally agree with ya mate.... i hate pidgeon holing. (nice term for it too!)

[Tobe Cypher23]

Seems Mzone refers to it as Hardbass on his Industry flyer, I remember all the shit he gave me on this forum when I called NEO.... Hardstyle Fusion/all that Mixmag shite.

[Nath]

Well I count the Word Hardbass not as a genre but as the Bass Kick

tunes Like Hard Bass Extreme is a good example

I never really Minded the Pigeon hole Hardstyle, Because its completly different to hardtrance so really it needed to be named under a sub catergory in my opinion!!

But Spliting Hardstyle in 2 catergories is just Stupid (leave it as hardstyle and not Hardbass thats just the Kick in it)

[Chazbloke]

Seems Mzone refers to it as Hardbass on his Industry flyer, I remember all the shit he gave me on this forum when I called NEO.... Hardstyle Fusion/all that Mixmag shite.

heh...yea, i didnt like his comments aimed towards your night either...

anyway, i do see/understand the need/want for new names of stuff..
when hardtrance was becomming harder and less melodic etc, a new term was needed to differentiate that style/sound from the normal hardtrance...
same could be said for HardBass, it's an evolution of a sound, which is now becoming more popular and needs it's own identity.....just as Hardstyle did...

[Addict]

This is gonna confuse the **** out of people.

[Chazbloke]

This is gonna confuse the **** out of people.

oh yea, no doubt....
just look at the world of *core...
doomcore, speedcore, breakcore, hardcore, gabba, industrial...
to me, all sounds the same , but to those in the know, quite different types of music.
then ya got ur technos; acid, hard, minimal, loopy, wonky etc etc...

[Pots]

You could quite easily say hardbass is the term for the raking style of bassline that distinguishes hardstyle, but i think its a pretty gay word, so im gonna stick with hardstyle.

It is true there are new genres within hardstyle - melodic (Pacific Link - Planetary Collapse (Luca Antonlini mix)), dark (Mclaren - Monoid (Hardstyle mix)), techy (Luna - In Control), bouncy (Hardnation - Humanoid (Gary D Hardbass mix)) blah blah blah blah blah... who gives a shit, its all hardstyle to me, cos of the distinguishing bassline, and also on-beat claps.

On another note, i was in a record shop yesterday and saw DHHD - Indication labelled as 'trance', which shows how negligent the UK scene is to what is happening in Europe right now.

[Tobe Cypher23]

Seems Mzone refers to it as Hardbass on his Industry flyer, I remember all the shit he gave me on this forum when I called NEO.... Hardstyle Fusion/all that Mixmag shite.

heh...yea, i didnt like his comments aimed towards your night either...

It's a shame cos I idolized him when I was a kid. He got me into the scene and the tunes he introduced me too led indirectly to me doing a night (or three)

It's a shame he had such a negative view point on the introduction of the word hardstyle and how he directed it at me. Seems to of forgetten his earlier words when designing the industry flyer. :roll:

It's re-enforced my view on only supporting the DJ's who support you.

Pity....



As for the Hardbass thing..I'm not sure there is a need for spliting the hardstyle sound into so many brackets in the UK. It's not established enough yet. I think the word hardstyle was needed at the time as hard trance had been/or has been trying to get established throughout the UK for nearly 10 years...so perhaps change was needed.

Why split the hardstyle sceneeven further when it's only come to the limelight in the last year or so.

[mister obedaih]

HMM people whats goin on at here, don't u know the difference between hardbass and hardstyle!!!!!!!

To day the sounds of these two styles are close together but there are differences!!!!

If u lissen to the two labels MOH ( master of hardstyle ) and seismic, u will get these differences directly, but when u get spinnin fusion, what style will this be??? ofcouse it is hardstyle, what u will call cheesie hardstyle, i prever hardstyle whit melody!!!

So the diferences, not only the bass and the melody, but think of vocals and percussion, the kick and the snare and hihats

there are many differences, but some of them are close to hardstyle, hardcore, hardtrance, techno and hardhouse.......

IN THESE TIME OF CLUBBIN, DJ'S CAN MAKE A NICE TRIP TO THESE STYLES, ON THESE DAY'S THESE STYLE ARE SO CLOSE TOGHETER THAT IT WILL BE A WASTE IF U DON'T MAKE A TRIP LIKE THIS

[Paul Nisbet]

**** genres etc, dont waste time tryin too catogorise everything.

Takes the fun out of it, kinda like having all ur records in alphabetical order, wheres the fun when u can just ave em in sorta of a decent order and be surprised or happy when u pull a tune out uve not playin in a while.

[TMP]

HMM people whats goin on at here, don't u know the difference between hardbass and hardstyle!!!!!!!

Sorry man, but looking at your reply...I think you do neither.... :roll:

If u lissen to the two labels MOH ( master of hardstyle ) and seismic,

You must be confused with Masters of Hardcore and as the name says....that's hardcore.

So the diferences, not only the bass and the melody, but think of vocals and percussion, the kick and the snare and hihats

Yeah, but what differences are there in the bass, melody, etc.???

I don't think there's a style called hardbass. Hardbass is just a Hardstyle/Oldschool/Hardcore party in Holland. Nothing more....

[mister obedaih]

HMM people whats goin on at here, don't u know the difference between hardbass and hardstyle!!!!!!!

Sorry man, but looking at your reply...I think you do neither.... :roll:

If u lissen to the two labels MOH ( master of hardstyle ) and seismic,

You must be confused with Masters of Hardcore and as the name says....that's hardcore.

So the diferences, not only the bass and the melody, but think of vocals and percussion, the kick and the snare and hihats

Yeah, but what differences are there in the bass, melody, etc.???

I don't think there's a style called hardbass. Hardbass is just a Hardstyle/Oldschool/Hardcore party in Holland. Nothing more....

Realy nice to quote me dude, but when u quote me and make some judgements about me, trie to keep the true above!!!!

MOH = also Masters of Hardstyle (the green, white and red cover dude!!!, one of the best italian hardstyle records!!!!

Seismic records = the best dutch hardbass label

Fusion records = a great label whit good melody which u prever to call it like "cheesie"

So now u may juge me about the words ah spinn around

the true about hardbass is that it's not only cheesie hardstyle!!! It's a mix of hardbass sounds which complete the hardbass fellin..... if u wanna know what the hardbass fellin is....... go to hardbass events!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HARDBASS IS A STYLE
STYLES OF ALL HARD"MUSIC"
SO LIKE I SAID, MAKE SOME DAY A NICE TRIP TO ALL HARD-STYLES AND U WILL DICOVER THE HARDBASS FELLIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mister obedaih]

TMP check out www.b2sevents.nl

so maybe you will get some day hardbass tickets!!!

[Jay M]

Ive got loads of stuff on Fusion and i wouldnt say its cheesey its just more part orientated hardstyle ;)

[Jay M]

that should say Party hardstyle ;)

[TMP]

Realy nice to quote me dude, but when u quote me and make some judgements about me, trie to keep the true above!!!!

MOH = also Masters of Hardstyle (the green, white and red cover dude!!!, one of the best italian hardstyle records!!!!

My bad, but why don't you just say Italian Masters of Hardstyle instead of MOH...??? cause MOH still stands in Holland for Masters of Hardcore, alright?

Seismic records = the best dutch hardbass label

Fusion records = a great label whit good melody which u prever to call it like "cheesie"

Yeah I know what Seismic is....duh....and I never said Fusion was cheesy! I love Sound of The Beast and Disappearance(Misdome Remix)!!

the true about hardbass is that it's not only cheesie hardstyle!!! It's a mix of hardbass sounds which complete the hardbass fellin..... if u wanna know what the hardbass fellin is....... go to hardbass events!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought this topic was about the STYLE Hardbass (which does not exist) and not about the FEELING Hardbass!

And don't go telling me about visiting parties cause I'm from Holland too remember??? I probably visited more parties then you....

[Tom @ Religion]

Hardbass is a style name being used by some! Also called New Style... but look at the tracks...

http://www.derschwede.homelinux.com/newstyle.php

:?:

[Pots]

Hardbass is a style name being used by some! Also called New Style... but look at the tracks...

http://www.derschwede.homelinux.com/newstyle.php

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Newstyle is quite possibly the worst genre name i have ever heard.

Hardstyle is a very broad term but WHO CARES! Pigeon-holing to the Nth degree is the most pointless thing. Beyond differentiating hardstyle from hardhouse, what more needs to be done, and what is the aim of labelling?

[Voorheez]

Hardbass is a far better name than hardstyle, I wish that it had been used from the beginning instead. Differentiating between two kinds of hardstyle will be extremely hard unless clear guidelines are set, but I can sort of see the need.