dodgyedgy: I haven't tried using samples yet but damn I should. TV samples are a perfect way to create a scene and sorta tell a story. For instance, have the Aljazeera samples play and bombs exploding in the background, sort of telling a story about terrorism. The hard thing is keeping it musical so it can be easily mixed into your track. I'm just really interested in experimenting beyond the whole DJ tools/tracks/club music idea and pushing techno into an actual musical song that you can listen to at home. Know what I mean?

stjohn: Yeah I have them both. SpaceDrone is nice, I like the way it can make wind and rain sounds, very useful stuff. Skrewell is good for really abstract shit. Have you gotten Electronic Instruments Vol. 2? Metaphysical Function is a really nice synth too. I'm not too big on the really abstract stuff because you can't really attribute them to anything in the real world, you know? Like I was saying, I want to create environments with sound that you can actually picture what's making the sound in your mind, not just trippy pads and swooshes that sound cool. I want to get deeper than just the sound and get some depth to what the sound actually is, which is pretty hard because being a sound designer is by no means easy.

mindful: Hmm, I'll have to try this. I don't want to depend too much on pads though. I think the days of trippy, abstract, no substance sound effects and noises are kinda dying. Well, atleast with me I guess. I love techno with all my heart, but lately it seems like the fact that most tracks have no story or point to them, bores me. I've been trying to write tracks that tell a story or make a point. Think of it like this, a hip-hop song has it's track name, say for instance "For My Dogs", while the actual lyrics tell a whole story and by the end of the track, you've heard a story. Now, I know a lot of techno tracks already do this, but not to the extent that I would like to. So, for instance, I would like to make a track called... "Vertigo". Well, the track would begin with a doctor talking and diagnosing an ear infection, and as he is saying it... the sound starts to warp and twist and the actual beat begins. Within the actual track, I would like the doctors voice fading in and out at points sounding really warped.... Ahhhhh so yeah, so that's my plan with the whole soundscapes and shit lol. Story-telling Techno! Yeaaa bboooyyyy.... lol Oh yeah, I also want to make Gangsta-techno. A mix between hip-hop and techno... gangsta-techno. I know I'm ****in' weird......