some good points there sunil.. but it just seems to emphasise my point. we both know that you dont find techno very effective anymore. thats your own personal thing and you're perfectly entitled to that opinion. but if there are people still digging techno and still getting excited by it then surely its doing its job?

there are soooo many genres out there now that to really push boundries in one often means falling into another. 10 years ago a techno producer gettin a little funkier than most was still making funky techno.. these days he's liable to be labelled as tech-house or something entirly differant so it ceases to become techno. which is why "People have got too hung up on the word "techno", to the point that it has to sound a certain way or else it's not techno" - because to step outside it is to not be making "techno"

case in point - davethedrummer.. i've seen the guys records labelled as hard techno, techno, club techno, hard house blah blah.. how can we expect to have a foeard thinking scene if everytime we try we're pushed into a differant scene?

rant over.... for now.