I AM TRYING TO JUMP ON A BANDWAGON PLEASE HELP !!!!

[davethedrummer]

right got to go for a bit
but please chaps , this is hypothetical
yes i am speaking about my personal stuff, because i started it , but i didn't start it so i could read lot's of replies saying " you should do this ..... "

no really i wanted to see what you all thought about artists shifting their sound and HOW they have achieved that or not achieved it to you minds.

[Dustin Zahn]

Thanks. ;) Another thing worth mentioning is one of the more positive points about the minimal explosion: new artist acceptance. If you look at sales charts on various sites, you'll see that a lot of the names are fairly new acts. While I think the majority of these new producers are just stoners-gone-ableton in a bad way, it's great to see that people are open to names besides the legends and obvious choices.

People are really quick to shun the minimal scene but its amazing to see how segregated it really is. There is the m_nus followers who will follow Richie, Luciano and co. into the depths of hell if asked to. Then there is the James Holden/Damian Lazerus kind of progressive styled "minimal," which all music aside has great production value. There's the foundsound/microcosm group of people that are more focused on the clicky, drippy, drugged out minimal sound (this is the stuff that most people on boa would probably hate on). On the flip, you have the harder minimal crowd such as Beyer, Agaric, 2 Dollar Egg, Tony Rohr, etc. There's also the DC10 circo loco kind of minimal/house/techno which is more like the party music of it all (Locodice, Tania Vulcano, etc.). And of course the electro-house with Trentemoeller, Gui Borrato, and more. Filling in the cracks there is tons of experimental type techno as well including Apendics.Shuffle, Kero, Paul Kalkbrenner, Excercise One, Thomas Schumacher, and more.

At the end of the day, there is so much room to breathe and do your own thing all under that "minimal" umbrella. And lastly, its like Dan The Acid Man, said...you're damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[mattboyslim]

i honestly think there are very few purists out there who would avoid your music no matter how good it is, just because you were/are associated with the acid scene

i like to think i have a good knowledge of techno. i know what i like, but background, scenes etc. who cares? good music is good music, and if whatever you do is good enough, it will sell

[Patrick DSP]

I loved the ambient track you did as Waterland with c.liberator back in 96. used to play the shit out of it when i used to play more chilled out beats.

do what you love and how you want to express yourself. but my advice is, use a differant persona if you're going to start doing minimal/non-hard music only sets that way you wont get a lot of pissed off fans.

[Si the Sigh]

I think Mr EG's hit the nail on the head Henry.

You've built up a reputation with the DAVE the Drummer / Henry Cullen name, so I'd stick with it, and just push your self a bit harder towards the area of the market / scene your aiming for.

[piginabush]

If the tunes are well produced then it shouldnt be an issue, true music lovers will not think "oh, Im not buying that DTD tune because he is a Techno man and he has released an electro house tune", true music lovers will see the new work as a widening of your experiences ;)

[massplanck]

classic thread.

break out of that mould DTD

[rhythmtech]

or keep the mould if you like it and create a new one to go with it.

[Si the Sigh]

Or use that mould to make jelly.

[rhythmtech]

and get two sxy ladies to wrestle in it for you

[theledge]

that would break the mould :lol:

[holotropik]

Is Henry gettin into Jelly wrestling...??

...what??

[sash]

being honest with your creativity always wins in the end. your character will shine through no matter what genre of music you produce if u r honest with yourself. fans appreciate honesty. i'd stick with DTD. I think fans wanna hear what else DTD can do.

[holotropik]

being honest with your creativity always wins in the end. your character will shine through no matter what genre of music you produce if u r honest with yourself. fans appreciate honesty. i'd stick with DTD. I think fans wanna hear what else DTD can do.

yep, that is spot on.

[Si the Sigh]

I 100% agree ^

But not about the jelly.

[Antinoise]

Henry, don’t worry about the typecasting, it’s made to be broken. But.. I think there are two important things people need to realize here:

1. “There is a time and a place for everything”.
2. Do a really f**kin’ good job at whatever your doing

It’s not about changing your style or changing your name; ITS ABOUT EXPANDING YOUR PALLET!. -----It’s about having that wicked break track to drop into a set to break the 4/4 monotony, -----Its about having that deep slow track (minimal or whatever) to drop-in when your playing the California desert as the sun is coming up, -----It’s about having more than Midnight-4am meth pumping techno in your bag.

All these dj’s playing hard techno.. now leaving it (seemingly) forever and now only playing minimal (or whatever) are inflicting an all new typecasting all over again. Dj’s need to understand the temperature and play the right music at the appropriate time. I don’t want to hear minimal at an outdoor party with 5000 people. I don’t want to hear hard techno in the bar up the road at 9pm.

Broaden the D.A.V,E the Drummer name.. don’t leave it.. It can only lead to further success.

Much respect,
Greg

[iffi]

You've obviously got an album of non-techno stuff inside of you that's screaming to get out. When i buy an album by a Techno producer i don't expect bangin tunes on every track-might as well stick to buying 12's if there were.
I say make your new music and stuff em. The clip you put up sounds good to me,(you can play it on our rig anytime-but there's no £ in it)and if you loose bookings because of it i'm sure other clubs will book you because of it (if u c wot i mean).
Variety is the spice of life m8 (so i'm led to believe) ;)

[dirty_bass]

totally toally understand where you are coming from here.
I`d say that the basic fact is that you will and probably do encounter prejudice or stereotyping from your acid techno history.
But it is a history to be proud of, and rightly so.
It`s all very well to say "oh a true techno fan would never stereotype and blah blah" but basically, you know the score, you get put into a box by people.
I`ve been in the same position and am having to do the same thing, use a totally anon name.

Aliases are the way, it`s your music at the end of the day, if it`s good, it will catch on, and if you have the dollar or the butt sucking talent, then get some good capitalist schweinhund marketing on the go too.

Good luck, and basically go for it man, you can still keep up the london stuff too, split your time, 2weeks other stuff, 2 weeks acid, or whatever.

If you start an alias (and I think the henry cullen one everyone knows is DtD), then try to keep it as anon as poss for as long as poss I reckon, although obviously be contactable etc

[Antinoise]

ya.. I'm not a huge fan of the multi-alias thing.. however keeping it unknown seems to work. The mystery has an aurora + the new name gets judged on its own merit.. and then later once established, you can reveal it and surprise every ones pants off. It becomes more a PR thing than just slapping a new name over the henry cullen skeleton. Just get to making your beats first.. Let these things work themselves out later.

What does Justine think about this whole subject? You know they are always right!!

[jiminyblackbox]

from a punters point of view as long as it sounds good . . . . . . . !! enjoyed the sample - stick the henry cullen bit to it, we will all know n those that dont will soon be educated, and im sure enthusiasts in whatever genre u take a plunge into will find the link between ur present and past if u get me . . . . .