With the greatest respect to Torsten, I wouldn't say what he does sounds like anyone else you mentioned above there.. And my point is about the wonky tab, was it wasn't util that came along that loads of half baked stuff started coming about by people saying "I make wonky techno".. Vogel, Landstrumm, Begg, schmidt etc had their own sound from the mid 90s, which was often played alongside the likes of Advent, Surgeon, Colddust, Jay Denham etc, and it was all mixed up, much like what I play today when I dj, the problem started when people became obsessed with the loop based stuff and couldn't be bothered to look outside that narrow remit... If you look at the linups of early uglyfunk parties (going back to Nottingham/Leicester days) Oliver Ho, Space DJz and Coldust were playing there as well as Subhead, Landstrumm and everybody else
Now you get a load of people in East germany cranking up the bpms to 150 plus and calling it wonky just because they put some stupid sounds/samples into it and set the swing quantise to 70 % (Which incidentally DOESN'T automatically make it funky, good drum programming is what makes shit funky), and I don't think it fair to lump in the amazing music that Vogel, Landstrumm and many others are making with the crap that's getting called "Wonky" these days.. it's tainted the term (which I rapidly went off once people tried to adhear to a genre), it's like calling Ben Sims Schranz.. Maybe it shouldn't bother me, but it does as I watched the whole thing unfold over the past few years, and I feel it's an injustice to try and classify what for instance Neil is making as "wonky" (freak bass and bleeps maybe??), when people are going to read that and think it's the same as Miditonal.. I mean what's innovative about hitting a keyboard randomly and distorting everything far too much? The end result is people who have never heard my music thinking that it's like the stupid stuff on the one hand, and then all these supposed "Wonky techno" fans being annoyed when they here my live show and I'm not hard enough for them on the other.. I understand your reasoning to a degree Robin, but I find the name "Wonky" just as offensive as some people find "Schranz".. it makes a lot of people switch off before they have even listened (but maybe I should blame their own predjudices for that eh?)