I'd say miditonal and ccc have both been influenced by landstrumm, vogel, subhead et all but crossed that sound with hard as nails beats and made it more formulated and easier to fit into harder techno sets, definately made their own sound from it though. ~For me, it works, especially some of the stuff on miditonal, its totally different to vogel, landstrumm etc. although there are parallells with the brown by august/peacefrog ep's of neils but definately not in the same sub-division-pigeon-hole.
Mark, you shouldn't get so worked up about the tags that get put on music, those who know...know , and for those who don't, it acts as a rough pointer if you're navigating through recordshops or just trying to find stuff you like. And if people're too narrow minded to look outside of one type of music then thats their choice/problem.