I really am totally miffed by this DJ Mag Poll

**ds2** · 03-09-2006, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface

[ Lovely chap, met him once or twice too in various places .

there's a shock :lol:

**eyeswithoutaface** · 03-09-2006, 04:39 PM

not really, just happened to have met him in various clubs/events over the years

**Lag** · 03-09-2006, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface

errr yeah, we've just agreed that, he's a good entertainer. He still isnt technically a great dj, ive seen him play many many times and technically, he's all over the place at the best of times.

as an entertainer dj
i think it is not as important if hes technically good
as it is important that the crowd is entertained
in any way

id must rather see a Fatboy slim live set than see him djing.

i agree about that. his albums are one of the things that got me into edm

Id rather just listen to his records than him playing other peoples records.

again, i agree
but i just said hes a good dj, and he does his job well
i didnt say his djing is better than his production :)

**essence** · 03-09-2006, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by koma

Originally Posted by jeroenliebregts

Originally Posted by Ryuuku

i like fatboy slim as a dj
whats wrong about him?
theres artists and entertainers
fatboy slim is an entertainer
and hes doing a very good job

...come on.
If I want to see an entertainer, i go to the circus.

not at all.
this is why parties arent (at least here) visited as much as before and why we are having "everything's going down" topics from time to time...

djs take themself a bit too seriuos today. if you can't entertain the crowd, move away and give space to somebody who can, simple as that.

sorry mate - for me it's bullsh*t. i never care bout what the dj does, it makes me laugh when they shout with the public; i am not watching them for "entertainment"; only music that counts.
i used to like watching millsey - 100% focused on what he's doing, concentrated... i dunno if it's the same these days.

the only thing i hate - when dj's look like they were serving some punishment or behaving VIP style . when i saw ian pooley 6 years ago, he looked like he hated all people he was playing for. tired maybe..

**essence** · 03-09-2006, 08:03 PM

and i think that fatboy's music is pop for teenagers.

**Miromiric** · 03-09-2006, 08:45 PM

to much entertainers, not rnought artists.

**Little_Fella!** · 04-09-2006, 03:00 AM

Back in 2001, I was into squat parties heavily at the time, but was given a couple o guest list tickets to the DJ Mag DJ Winners Poll party at Fabric.... :eyes:

So we went along for the fun of it...

Chris Liberator was No. 70 at the time, we were like, 'Yeey...! nice one etc..blah blah'...

Tiesto was No. 1 but i had snuffled a big truffle at that point so didn't give a hoot n was looking forward to the music coming back on, (which was moderately tough so I was happy) :)

Went to the afterparty, which was at the bar I was workin at- Steve Lawler played.... all v nice etc..
:)

**Little_Fella!** · 04-09-2006, 03:06 AM

Then even went back to Leslie's house (the editor), who didn't like techno at all by the way and was very dismissive in that respect...

Any way I ignored this, and then she got all grumpy n shot nearly every one out...

Fair do's I suppose but still, no need to screech & go on as no one was being out of order...

I was glad to get home to mi decks I tell thee...!

**Little_Fella!** · 04-09-2006, 03:22 AM

Anyways...

The whole thing is a commercial entity that serves itself, as we all know....

I agree with Koma, and would like to add that as it is the shape of the 'commercial' overground that determines the credibility and definition by what should truly be labelled as the 'non commercial' underground.....

You can't have an underground scene if there is nothing above it... :)

**rhythmtech** · 04-09-2006, 04:28 AM

Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface

top 100 producers poll instead maybe?

bloody good idea.. although ****in tiga or some bollox would still win :lol:

**dirty_bass** · 04-09-2006, 04:47 AM

I just bin all that spam straight away, doesn`t really bother me at all, I don`t really read any of the mags anyway, so it means nothing to me who`s at the top. I`ll still listen to what I listen to, and moan like an old man now and again.

**koma** · 04-09-2006, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by essence

Originally Posted by koma

Originally Posted by jeroenliebregts

...come on.
If I want to see an entertainer, i go to the circus.

not at all.
this is why parties arent (at least here) visited as much as before and why we are having "everything's going down" topics from time to time...

djs take themself a bit too seriuos today. if you can't entertain the crowd, move away and give space to somebody who can, simple as that.

sorry mate - for me it's bullsh*t. i never care bout what the dj does, it makes me laugh when they shout with the public; i am not watching them for "entertainment"; only music that counts.
i used to like watching millsey - 100% focused on what he's doing, concentrated... i dunno if it's the same these days.

the only thing i hate - when dj's look like they were serving some punishment or behaving VIP style . when i saw ian pooley 6 years ago, he looked like he hated all people he was playing for. tired maybe..

I was actually reffering to those guys who dont give a **** about the audience, cause "they're are doing they thing and the crowd is probably uneducated". I've seen that shit few times this summer, the crowd was standing still on the floor, yawning, talking... and the guy behind the decks was "doing his thing", LOL... some of them didnt play bad records, on the contrary, but the timing was totally wrong...

maybe they prepared their sets before the party, dunno about that, but I do know they sucked big time :cheese:

I love those djs that come early on a party and hang out with other djs, dance among the crowd, enjoy themself, now they can say they're feeling the atmosphere right and I'm sure they'll rarely go wrong when they come behind the decks... if you're having 2-3 gigs per night and you're running from spot to spot, I'm not sure all those sets will be top notch...

and when it comes to art... the only art in 4/4 dance music is making people dance :cheese:

**Miromiric** · 04-09-2006, 12:52 PM

i ****in.g hate dance music

**Sunil** · 04-09-2006, 01:28 PM

Characteristics of the stereotypical DJ who chases after getting into these polls:

A. A poser/ Secretly a wannabe pop/movie/TV star
B. Bad DJ
C. Can't produce on a track on own. Needs co-producer, for when "in the studio".

Lets face it, half these shits would give up if they got a better paying job somewhere else, although obviously it would need be a position where their ego was suitably massaged on a regular basis. Let the ****ers at it.

I think a Top 100 Worst DJ poll would be good, especially if it caught on and people began to realise what a load of shit these polls are. If someone had the time on their hands to write up a foreword or mission statement that states all the traits to dislike about the average self important DJ of today, or the methods they use, it could serve as a good basis for a website. Probably all a bit too negative though, but still... it'd be nice to see some of these eejits that litter the Top 100 DJ poll, romping home to high positions in the official Worst DJ Top 100 poll. It would definitely put a lot of things into perspective.

**jeroenliebregts** · 04-09-2006, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Sunil

I think a Top 100 Worst DJ poll would be good, especially if it caught on and people began to realise what a load of shit these polls are. If someone had the time on their hands to write up a foreword or mission statement that states all the traits to dislike about the average self important DJ of today, or the methods they use, it could serve as a good basis for a website. Probably all a bit too negative though, but still... it'd be nice to see some of these eejits that litter the Top 100 DJ poll, romping home to high positions in the official Worst DJ Top 100 poll. It would definitely put a lot of things into perspective.

great idea. Tiesto will win both polls.

**rhythmtech** · 04-09-2006, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by jeroenliebregts

Originally Posted by Sunil

I think a Top 100 Worst DJ poll would be good, especially if it caught on and people began to realise what a load of shit these polls are. If someone had the time on their hands to write up a foreword or mission statement that states all the traits to dislike about the average self important DJ of today, or the methods they use, it could serve as a good basis for a website. Probably all a bit too negative though, but still... it'd be nice to see some of these eejits that litter the Top 100 DJ poll, romping home to high positions in the official Worst DJ Top 100 poll. It would definitely put a lot of things into perspective.

great idea. Tiesto will win both polls.

:lol:

**rhythmtech** · 04-09-2006, 01:55 PM

my worst djz top 5

(based purely on the fact that they're limelight hogging money grabbing cunts.. and not on technical merit whatsoever)

5. paul van dick (purely cause his name annoys me)
4. miss kitten (the arrogant bitch needs a slap)
3. eddie halliwell (im just jealous of his success)
2. picotto (some of his productions with studio "partner" ferri are quite good.. but as a dj? SHOOT ME...PLEASE!!!!)
[b]1. TIESTO (hahahahahaha... hahahaaha... sorry.. hhahahahaha)

**Miromiric** · 04-09-2006, 02:01 PM

yes, picotto really has some amazing tunes

**rhythmtech** · 04-09-2006, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Miromiric

yes, picotto really has some amazing tunes

ahh hes got a few he did with ferri.. that taotek was quite cool.. even if it did drag on a bit.

**Sunil** · 04-09-2006, 02:14 PM

I interviewed Frankie Bones a few years ago, and funny enough... he namechecked Picotto and BXR as doing something 'new' in techno for a spell.

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