Ive always thought 'old skool' hardcore to be cheesy tacky rubbish, yet some producers and DJs still see it as a close relative of hardstyle. I cant see the connection AT ALL, and it really annoys me to hear such disposable cheap melodies and hamster vocals alongside what I see as the most grinding and furious form of music Ive heard.

Where is the connection? Im pretty much certain Dutch hardstyle events dont contain any 'hardcore', and they are doing an absolutely roaring trade. I think there would be similar success here in the UK if we dropped the link between these two completely different styles of music.