I really am totally miffed by this DJ Mag Poll

**MARKEG** · 03-09-2006, 10:30 AM

Yet again, my inbox is spammed from DJ's asking me to vote for them.

I just don't get it. Why is it so important? It really doesn't represent fresh good music. Just why are ppl taking this so serious?

Don't get me wrong, I have done articles for DJ in the past, i like the mag... but this is just plain silly. I can see what a position in this poll would do for you as a DJ, but why be hyped like this?

Sorry to bring this up again. I think I did it last year too :) hehe

But WTF eh :lol:

**force** · 03-09-2006, 10:37 AM

I think 'EGO' might have something to do with it mark :myagi:

**ds2** · 03-09-2006, 11:11 AM

techno djs are the worst culprits.

"a vote for me is a vote for techno" :roll:

no it's not, it's a vote for you and your ego. who seriously gives a f()ck if techno djs are in some fake chart in a crappy, past it's sell by date dance rag.

**Col** · 03-09-2006, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by MARK EG

Yet again, my inbox is spammed from DJ's asking me to vote for them.

I just don't get it. Why is it so important? It really doesn't represent fresh good music. Just why are ppl taking this so serious?

Don't get me wrong, I have done articles for DJ in the past, i like the mag... but this is just plain silly. I can see what a position in this poll would do for you as a DJ, but why be hyped like this?

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I don't think 95% of DJ's represent "fresh" or "good" music. And i fail to see how a promotional e-mail turns a purveyor of something deemed credible & unique into someone who's not.

Secondly, I think you answer lies within your own question> "I can see what a position in this poll would do for you as a DJ"

I think it's pretty safe to assume that the majority of DJ's (and even people in general) are driven by fame/money. And with that in mind it's pretty clear why people are so desperate to appear in your "Top 100 DJ's" etc

**crime** · 03-09-2006, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by MARK EG

I really am totally miffed by this DJ Mag Poll

I don't understand why you're getting miffed about it, always has been a crock of shite, always will be....

**eyeswithoutaface** · 03-09-2006, 01:11 PM

yeah, doesnt even warrant a thread to be honest. Total bag of toss

**dan the acid man** · 03-09-2006, 01:21 PM

so nobodies going to vote for rudi schmulten then ? :( :lol:

**conflict** · 03-09-2006, 01:46 PM

MC BUFFALO?

**sash** · 03-09-2006, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by MARK EG

I can see what a position in this poll would do for you as a DJ, but why be hyped like this?

I'm sure we all know people that look at those lists and say "ooh Tiesto is number one. so he's the best dj eh.....". I fkn hate that. It's like Fatboy slim, the last few years he's always floating around the top there somewhere. he was here for NYE and the majority of people r all hyped thinkin "ooh Fatboy's comin, he's one of the best dj's in the world" and then he sucked ass and everyone was like "what the fukk was that shit"...

**eyeswithoutaface** · 03-09-2006, 02:00 PM

well i think anyone naive enough to actually think Fatboy Slim is a good dj deserves a bit of a let down really.

i wish someone would delete this thread, its depressing

**Lag** · 03-09-2006, 02:09 PM

i like fatboy slim as a dj
whats wrong about him?
theres artists and entertainers
fatboy slim is an entertainer
and hes doing a very good job

**jeroenliebregts** · 03-09-2006, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Ryuuku

i like fatboy slim as a dj
whats wrong about him?
theres artists and entertainers
fatboy slim is an entertainer
and hes doing a very good job

...come on.
If I want to see an entertainer, i go to the circus.

**eyeswithoutaface** · 03-09-2006, 02:47 PM

no one said he wasnt an entertainer did they? i said he's not a good dj, which he isnt. At all. Full stop.

he is a fantastic producer and his track record speaks for itself

but he's an awful dj

**jeroenliebregts** · 03-09-2006, 02:51 PM

although he has a different opinion about that himself.
That's why he is such a good 'entertainer'

**koma** · 03-09-2006, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by jeroenliebregts

Originally Posted by Ryuuku

i like fatboy slim as a dj
whats wrong about him?
theres artists and entertainers
fatboy slim is an entertainer
and hes doing a very good job

...come on.
If I want to see an entertainer, i go to the circus.

not at all.
this is why parties arent (at least here) visited as much as before and why we are having "everything's going down" topics from time to time...

djs take themself a bit too seriuos today. if you can't entertain the crowd, move away and give space to somebody who can, simple as that.

**jeroenliebregts** · 03-09-2006, 02:54 PM

if the music is good, the crowd will be entertained.

**koma** · 03-09-2006, 03:00 PM

if the dj is crap, he'll ruin the night even with the best records...

**Lag** · 03-09-2006, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface

no one said he wasnt an entertainer did they? i said he's not a good dj, which he isnt. At all. Full stop.

he is a fantastic producer and his track record speaks for itself

but he's an awful dj

imo theres 2 kind of djs
1. a dj who makes with his track selection a whole new track. a hour/two hours/whatever long track. the songs are connected very tightly and create a good buildup. i consider this art
2. a dj who plays tracks the crowd likes. he doesnt build up song "feels" but rather he builds up... i dont know how to explain this.. he adds to the happy happy joy joy atmosphere with every next track. it doesnt matter if he plays tim deluxe or red hot chilli peppers.
fatboy played janis joplin when he play @ the exit festival. the crowd went wild.
i consider this entertainment. fatboy is a good entertainer. maybe as good as tiga :)

**koma** · 03-09-2006, 03:15 PM

and i dont understand what's the fuss with this dj mag poll every year.

like in every genre, there's a part of the scene that's more exposed in the media... if you want to be a part of it, fine with me.. if you think it'll benefit you, help you to bring some of your ideas to life, go ahead...

but, if you'd like to talk about "underground" in the year 2006., hide from the media etc... go ahead.. just dont cry when nobody notices you among dozens of thousand djs/producers at the end of the day...

i was debating with some people the other day.. all they do is moan about the way newspapers and tv's are covering the techno scene only through drug arrests and incidents. i mean, shit, why dont you try and show them some positive sides of everything, speak up, what, everyone who uses media is a sellout, is that what youre all afraid of? cause thats bullshit, sorry...

**eyeswithoutaface** · 03-09-2006, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Ryuuku

Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface

no one said he wasnt an entertainer did they? i said he's not a good dj, which he isnt. At all. Full stop.

he is a fantastic producer and his track record speaks for itself

but he's an awful dj

imo theres 2 kind of djs
1. a dj who makes with his track selection a whole new track. a hour/two hours/whatever long track. the songs are connected very tightly and create a good buildup. i consider this art
2. a dj who plays tracks the crowd likes. he doesnt build up song "feels" but rather he builds up... i dont know how to explain this.. he adds to the happy happy joy joy atmosphere with every next track. it doesnt matter if he plays tim deluxe or red hot chilli peppers.
fatboy played janis joplin when he play @ the exit festival. the crowd went wild.
i consider this entertainment. fatboy is a good entertainer. maybe as good as tiga :)

errr yeah, we've just agreed that, he's a good entertainer. He still isnt technically a great dj, ive seen him play many many times and technically, he's all over the place at the best of times.

He's a great entertainer of course, but he was a great entertainer before he stood behind a pair of decks, so it makes no odds. He got into djing through the success of his records, id must rather see a Fatboy slim live set than see him djing. Lovely chap, met him once or twice too in various places but still doesnt mean i think he's a good dj, there are people on this board who would technically nail him to the floor. I love some of the stuff he plays, but it's nothing i dont listen to at home anyway so its quite irrelevant to me. Id rather just listen to his records than him playing other peoples records.

and re this poll thing, well to put it simply, it would have a bit more clout to the proceedings if it were something that held a bit more respect through the scene, i.e top 100 producers poll instead maybe? i would still not be the remotely bit interested in the poll itself, but it would certainly bring more positivity about polls in general i think.

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