also gotta add i think the "pushing things forward" thing is stifling the thought process some what, i mean from a totally neutral point of view, who is actually pushing things forward to the point where there is a change occuring? put all your fave artists or artists people want to impress to one side and have a serious think. I honestly cant think of one person. I can think of people who are doing exciting things, intense things but i dont see anyone seriously breaking the mould as it were.

These days i tend to look for people who are making great MUSIC, not just doing the same tracks over and over again with their loop packs, and not even making groundbreaking or "forward thinking" music, just good, solid old fashioned musicianship with solid, well written songs. There are people about doing this, just gotta get out and look for them