someone please lock or delete this before i cry
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someone please lock or delete this before i cry
obviously people have alot of different views on this one, the actual point of the split mailout (which i actually wrote myself last year) was to just try and get a few more techno names in the vote, it wasn't supposed to be a vote for sims and finke thing, unfortunately the guy that did the mailout added the names and photo's at the top without even asking, so sorry for that, we certainly aren't begging or going hungry but i still feel that without any magazine recognition, whether it's in a trance/ibiza orientated mag or not, there will be no new generation of people listening to techno, there will be no countries that embrace the music and eventually it'll die out.Originally Posted by module
most people start out listening to crap dance music anyway and only thru education and exposure can they get into or even hear about other styles. the poll maybe a back patting excercise but if it can bring more people to the scene and help spread the word, then whats wrong with techno being in it??? it can only benefit the music in the long run, no?
it ain\'t where you\'re at, it\'s where you\'re from...
Red Rag / Bull.Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface
haha yeah i just really cant be arsed with this descending into another "Dj's get paid too much and im really gutted im not" kind of thread which it is.
ive been thinking about it and it takes way more energy to get pissed off at people who are aiming at a different target than one's self, so why get upset? who cares how much Dave Clarke is getting? who cares that Sims and Finke want to get into the top 100 djs? i dont, it's not going to stop me doing what i do, it's not going to sour the milk in my fridge or anything is it?
i say chill peeps, anyone who wants to continually annoy everyone else year after year with these kind of pointless mailouts, great, go and do it, those who dont, thats great too, just keep doing the music and people will still be listening regardless
i jus dont see how a poll is gonna stave of techno 'dying out'
its utter toss.. 99.99% of techno fans i know where MUSIC fans first & foremost & found techno by looking for something new or hearing it via a pal.. NOT by seeing it in a f*cking magazine poll.
ive a huge mammoth respect for Sims as a dj & producer, to Split for their show & gigs & for Finke.. but this ?
this, imo, is NOT the way to help techno move forward. yes, spread the word, and if only Magic Feet was still about.. but its not.
if Split want to spread techno, do it themselves, not via a magazine that barely covers 'techno' outside of Mills, Hawtin, Cox etc.. Split & its parts have massive reputation & scope for spreading techno, so why are they asking for ppl to vote in a poll ????
i dont know ANYONE who has anything good to say about polls & what they stand for.. especially this yearly ego hand job..
wait...are you guys suggesting that this poll, conducted unscientifically by a toilet rag of a magazine that named paul van dyk and tiesto the top DJs of 2005, should somehow not be considered the bomb-diggity answer-to-all-techno's-economic-and-creative-problems????
well, i never...
:bonk:
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I can understand the point of bringing in fresh blood etc, but as I said from the start, it's very much a UK thing, and Techno/Electronic music is more of a global thing.. I suppose I just felt it was a bit doomsayer to say "oh if no techno djs are in this poll techno will die out".. techno has died 10 times over in the UK already, but I think there has always been a steady amount of fresh blood coming into the UK scene, and I mean, Vaeth just had a cover CD on mixmag.. Dying out?Originally Posted by retrovert
i think the scene in the uk is actually pretty healthy, the problem is more outside the uk where you'd be suprised how people, promoters and punters take the dj mag poll seriously, and even worse many believe the poll to be an acurate representation of the scene here, which it is most definately not.
say china or parts of south america where dance music is relatively new, how are these new scene's going to find out about anything other than trance or cheese if it's not featured in media that travels there?
anyway, to say it again. the split mailout was never meant to be a 'vote for sims and finke' thing, just an attempt to get more techno in the poll. obviously alot of you disagree that it will help the scene, no drama.
rv out.
it ain\'t where you\'re at, it\'s where you\'re from...
My guess, you were just chattin him.Originally Posted by module
Its a weird one this topic, I posted the question on the merit of this poll on a European forum and they hardly took a bite :roll: which surprised me!
So yeah I think Techno needs recognition from the dance music community as a whole, but as for the people on the inside (be it punter, Dj or producer) they dont need to be told who's hots and whos not!
p.s. Well looking forward to the 3rd Birthday bash :lol:
they all want to live the super star styllee.....big fuk off egos and loads of money......
if your a good dj, real fans will know what up in the club(or on cd etc).
who gives a flying fuk about the top djs poll......
the best djs in the world prob dont even end up close to the top ten.......wonder where mix master mike is.
even i could make the top 10 look weak as fuk.
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3hr drunk freestyle of techno set @ 3am when ma mates crash oot wi balloons on his heid, yeh thats selling it
just over 2hrs of techno from sekonz's boxin day set at jakN, GRV, edinburgh
Being over here and working with clubs in the US (Midwest) i know that the ones i work with are a fickle bunch. they do go off things like the DJmag top 100 to get input on if a guy should be brought or not. If someone is brought to clubs here it spreads influence that might have been missed other wise. we can all like the small scenes, but I love techno more than keeping it to myself. the heads will stay bangin' the people that are new might not be the core but they are helping pay the bills and keeping us going. So is it worth it to techno to do something that trance and everyoen else is doing? we must market ourselves to the masses. we have that going for us. we are semi exclusive...but if no one knows how are we to progress?
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vote for me ..........please , i'm hungry and my washing machine's broken , my car needs fixing , i need some cigarettes , and some shoes ...honestly i'm poor , so i must really love music , and i'm genuine.
and if i'm not advertised by dj mag , my entire culture will be wiped out , and no one will ever use the term " techno " to describe a piece of music ever again.
and the kids will be walking the streets.....destitute.....knowing that something is missing from their lives ....but not knowing what , because the evil techno police have erased all mention of techno throughout history.......
good isn't it?
shall i go on?
or can we stop now?
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