yo brad. its sounding abit muddy man. i kind of moved on from that track. and started some other stuff i prefard. sounded better with them plugs. but then was getting conflicting plugs so chouldnt use um in the end doh fecking fat aswell mate. and been having probs with cubase. like the rex files playing out of time after the bounce. and went out this weekend to fusion. had a listen to that track last nite and thout feck it i'll put it up lol. was still abit def lol. nice 1 for ya feedback homie.