The way Schranz is going....

[Aratron]

Schranz is what happens when those people on too many drugs who come up to you when you're playing and shout "harder, faster" discover fruity loops & compressor plug ins...

wot rubbish
shranz is brilliant
i was listening and buying it 3 years ago and still do and i dont need validation from people on boa to tell me wether its good or not

[crime]

wot rubbish
shranz is brilliant
i was listening and buying it 3 years ago and still do and i dont need validation from people on boa to tell me wether its good or not

Good for you mate ;)
I would hope that people don't live their lives by the opinions of other people on message boreds (sic)

I still can't tell the difference between all the records though, I was under the impression that most schranz djs only had 2 records, which they mixed continuously all night....

[Aratron]

some of it is good
some of it is absolute garbage
just like techno

[fac]

I was under the impression that most schranz djs only had 2 records, which they mixed continuously all night....

u mean they let a loop play and act like they spin records?!

[crime]

u mean they let a loop play and act like they spin records?!

I mean, I can't tell the difference between one distorted noise on the off beat with a banging kickdrum under loads of compression with another... that leads me to suspect that only 2 schranz tracks really exists.. it's only the labels on the records which are different :P

[Sunil]

I dunno, I listen to the odd thing these days, but nothing i'd think of buying. I wouldn't rule out playing it on the right night, but I'd just go back to the first records from Amok and a few others...

[TechMouse]

I still can't tell the difference between all the records though

Difference is though Miro, that you were trying to diss something that you didn't have much of an idea about

I smell hypocrisy...

Come on Mark, we all know how irritating it is when people say "Techno? Isn't that all just bang bang bang..." so it's a bit crap to say the exact same about a particular strain of Techno you're not so chuffed with.

[fac]

it's a difference if someone who knows shit about electronic music says "bah, it's all the same" or another guy (e.g. mark) who is really into this kind of music says some similar sentence about the most monotonous, bangin, repetitive etc. stuff you can imagine

[robin m]

Got to love those schranz handbags :rockin:

Re the original point I totally agree, I'm liking a lot of the newer stuff coming through too - Matame, Protocast, Alex Calver, Leo Laker etc... a bit more creativity and cleverness than just going 'whump whump whump whump' for the whole record. People seem to be trying a bit harder to break the mould recently.

I can see where the schranz haters are coming from, but f*ck it - it does what it sets out to do, people are into it and the fact that it's so far removed from (for eg) crime's approach to techno that it all sounds the same to him is a good thing - three cheers for diversity :)

[crime]

Robin, I just checked out some of the stuff you were talking about (aside from the Calver).. Do you think the schranz scene is somehow merging with the Gabba/Hardcore scene? I must point out I was being a completely sarcastic wanker (I'm suprised anyone took me so seriously), but I have been to some horrific parties over the last few months in germany wich has given me some cynicism over the whole schranz "scene" although a few honourable mentions must go out to a few people from that scene who are nice people (Kvitta, Pets, Lukas etc).. but it does seem to be taking some ques from the hardcore thing... not my bag so much, but I can understand the appeal a bit more that a lot of the crap that was coming out over the past few years.. the biggest problem I feel is though that some producers are too happy just to be pumping out product.. i.e. 12 e.p.s a year with no though as to whether the next record was a progression from the last...

[robin m]

Robin, I just checked out some of the stuff you were talking about (aside from the Calver).. Do you think the schranz scene is somehow merging with the Gabba/Hardcore scene? I must point out I was being a completely sarcastic wanker (I'm suprised anyone took me so seriously), but I have been to some horrific parties over the last few months in germany wich has given me some cynicism over the whole schranz "scene" although a few honourable mentions must go out to a few people from that scene who are nice people (Kvitta, Pets, Lukas etc).. but it does seem to be taking some ques from the hardcore thing... not my bag so much, but I can understand the appeal a bit more that a lot of the crap that was coming out over the past few years.. the biggest problem I feel is though that some producers are too happy just to be pumping out product.. i.e. 12 e.p.s a year with no though as to whether the next record was a progression from the last...

The schranz & gabba scenes seem less distinct recently round these parts for sure... nights & parties seem to incorporate both of them more than they used to. I'm not a fan of hardcore, it's got a very different & far less appealing feel to it for me - but a lot of people seem to get a similar vibe from both so I suppose I'd say they're merging to an extent. Nottingham's a pretty small place to base a judgement on though as you know:;

I'd agree with what you say about people putting out identikit EPs without breaking new ground, but that's not a problem specific to schranz as I'm sure you'd agree... you get that with any music. Something comes along, it's new & different, people love it & start emulating it - before long it gets stale & loses it's edge so if you're lucky people eventually take it in new directions and new sounds grow from it. That's how music develops I guess, which is how we got stuff so totally different as schranz & your own music from the detroit sound... evolution in action.

[Aratron]

Robin, I just checked out some of the stuff you were talking about (aside from the Calver).. Do you think the schranz scene is somehow merging with the Gabba/Hardcore scene? I must point out I was being a completely sarcastic wanker (I'm suprised anyone took me so seriously), but I have been to some horrific parties over the last few months in germany wich has given me some cynicism over the whole schranz "scene" although a few honourable mentions must go out to a few people from that scene who are nice people (Kvitta, Pets, Lukas etc).. but it does seem to be taking some ques from the hardcore thing... not my bag so much, but I can understand the appeal a bit more that a lot of the crap that was coming out over the past few years.. the biggest problem I feel is though that some producers are too happy just to be pumping out product.. i.e. 12 e.p.s a year with no though as to whether the next record was a progression from the last...

sorry for being rude to you dude

[crime]

wot rubbish
shranz is brilliant
i was listening and buying it 3 years ago and still do and i dont need validation from people on boa to tell me wether its good or not

are you one of those people who takes too many drugs and shouts "harder faster?" at djs that are playing "sh it" because it's not "pumpin"

Try listening to it when you're straight mate... :P

[Aratron]

are you one of those people who takes too many drugs and shouts "harder faster?" at djs that are playing "sh it" because it's not "pumpin"

Try listening to it when you're straight mate... :P

go **** yourself

[1992]

Agreed. However I am starting to get sick of the dark techno/schranz that I've been buying. Its starting to sound all very simmilar and depressing. I hope I'm wrong though, I hope it gets better. Less distortion would be good as would more variation in the tracks however the extreme compression is what I like about it.

[Siege]

The best shranz for me was the form,construct rythm stuff.Hard as f**k but still retaining a bit of intelligence.
Majority of the stuff i hear these days is just mindless bang bang all sounding the same......just my opininion though

[Aratron]

there a few gems amongst the dross from time to time i donmt know all the labels are who orignated it.
i just like stuff by Robert Natus Mayhem Man Anreas Kremer Sven Wittekind Viper XL etc hardly shite is it?

[dan the acid man]

why does every schranz convo turn out like this.

some people love it, some don't, can't we all just live with it and leave out the personal insults

[snooch]

The best shranz for me was the form,construct rythm stuff.Hard as f**k but still retaining a bit of intelligence.
Majority of the stuff i hear these days is just mindless bang bang all sounding the same......just my opininion though

Absolutely! I'm a big fan of this stuff. Has all the elements of schranz I like, with good hard techno to balance it out and give it a bit of complexity. Alex K. Katz couldn't do wrong for a while there. One of my favorite periods of techno.