The way Schranz is going....

[Si the Sigh]

why is it i only hear about techno going down in sales of vinyl.......dnb, house, trance, and hardcore seem to be doing ok no?

I always wonder the same thing.

My mate owns a record shop. UK Hardcore out sells every techno release by 20 to 1 at the absolute least.

D&B vinyl sales are still high. Hardtrance & Hardstyle sales are still reasonable, as are sales of house and breaks, abet on a smaller scale in the case of this shop.

You can't tell me that MP3's are selling more than vinyl. I really can't believe that at all.

[Jay Pace]

D&B vinyl sales are still high

On D&B - have you heard that "download" track? Jesus.
Bunch of ****ing dinosaurs

[z99]

On D&B - have you heard that "download" track? Jesus.
Bunch of ****ing dinosaurs

muah, definitely

"i need MP3ees, vinyl is dead bruvv -- whaa, u're talking shieeeeeeet"

typical Clipz and his clown army :)


anyhow, what a nice turn for a schranz thread! // although I'm a bit of a vinyl fetishist too, the only thing what kinda bothers me concerning digital revolution is how do we get right music to the right audience in times when even the hard copy market suffers from overproduction? // should come up with new means of marketing, I guess.. other than plain spamming :D

[Scott Kemix]

Schranz is definately going forward with lots of new producers coming through. I would like to see more producers from the UK representing a little more. Schranz is a much larger scene in europe and will continue to lead this genre. I have recently had various visits to european venue's playing schranz, where the vibe and amount of support out there is immense.
I got more into schranz about 2 years ago now, where i became bored of everyone playing the same funky techno and cloning henry's tracks but to no avail. I needed something new and fresh with more energy to the overall sound and schranz seemed the right direction to take. It maybe a little fast and distorted to some people, but it is everyones personal preference to like whatever sound they want. Long live the harder sound!

[conflict]

shranz is music for the un-educated fool

[fac]

UDM

[conor256]

what do you guys think of this release then on tool terror???

http://www.bangingtunes.com/vinyl/view/toolterror10/

its schranz alright but its not so full on and sounds a bit funky in parts imo....

[Scott Kemix]

shranz is music for the un-educated fool

then you must be the fool, cause you cant spell! hehehehe

[Dorian Hunter]

We had Amok playing here some days ago, interesting style, too fast for me personally, but really different to most Schranz-acts we had here the last 2 years. Really hard, sick and dark.

[davethedrummer]

i love this new wittekind thing i got last week
the sunstorm ep on abstract records
very nice track on the b i think
with a swirly synth pattern and a great drop
its pretty difficult to get the seperation between synths and all those drums but he's done it really well i think
i got it because i was playing in sardinia over chrimbo and the local dj there is a total schranz head , so he had all the latest stuff
and i have to say i didn't hate it nearly as much as before.
it used to be all bootlegs with the worst cheesy trax just ripped to bits but now people seem to be getting into original trax again
which is great i.m.o.
and it's really not bad either.
sure there's always going to be fodder , but thats same anywhere isn't it?
maybe the schranz guys have been guilty of just thrashing it out in the past
but the bar of quality has been raised recently for sure.

[koma]

http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/236109-01.htm

sunstorm ep
a1 on that record is really nice

a1 on inflicted 009 also has a fine trancy melody, reminds me on earlier bonzai output a bit...in a hard techno remix hehe

[Scott Kemix]

i love this new wittekind thing i got last week
the sunstorm ep on abstract records
very nice track on the b i think
with a swirly synth pattern and a great drop
its pretty difficult to get the seperation between synths and all those drums but he's done it really well i think
i got it because i was playing in sardinia over chrimbo and the local dj there is a total schranz head , so he had all the latest stuff
and i have to say i didn't hate it nearly as much as before.
it used to be all bootlegs with the worst cheesy trax just ripped to bits but now people seem to be getting into original trax again
which is great i.m.o.
and it's really not bad either.
sure there's always going to be fodder , but thats same anywhere isn't it?
maybe the schranz guys have been guilty of just thrashing it out in the past
but the bar of quality has been raised recently for sure.

nice 1 hendry, its good to see the positive side and hear somebody talking inteligently about this subject. From what i hear, you get the good and the bad in all styles of music whether it be dance/trance/funky techno/hardcore/indie/rock/metal.........great e.p from witte btw

[MITA]

i love this new wittekind thing i got last week
the sunstorm ep on abstract records
very nice track on the b i think
with a swirly synth pattern and a great drop
its pretty difficult to get the seperation between synths and all those drums but he's done it really well i think
i got it because i was playing in sardinia over chrimbo and the local dj there is a total schranz head , so he had all the latest stuff
and i have to say i didn't hate it nearly as much as before.
it used to be all bootlegs with the worst cheesy trax just ripped to bits but now people seem to be getting into original trax again
which is great i.m.o.
and it's really not bad either.
sure there's always going to be fodder , but thats same anywhere isn't it?
maybe the schranz guys have been guilty of just thrashing it out in the past
but the bar of quality has been raised recently for sure.

yep,i like that track on the record aswell,but rest is just crapisimo
that cheesy sinth in a1 is tottaly euro shite
bull fighter hahahaha.come on
dunno,here and there u can find some ok schranzy hard tech!

[Trip Head]

I saw Swen Wittekind and Felix Kroecher on NYE in Barcelona and they were both played blinding sets. Also saw DJ Lukas a few days later who was pretty damn good too.

Never really listened to much Schranz before as I just had the attitude (like most people in this thread) that it was just very montonous relentless techno. I'd say I still think that about a lot of it, but some of the tunes I heard in Barcleona were amazing. Growling basslines, synths, mixing in trancy elements, breakbeats, mad cutting.

I think the energy it creates on the dancefloor in the right party is just brilliant. And as for the bootlegs, I think they're quality (in moderation). People need to stop taking themselves so seriously and have a bit of fun!

[fac]

T H I S is more bangin than any ****in schranz record will ever be

[audioinjection]

I always wonder the same thing.

My mate owns a record shop. UK Hardcore out sells every techno release by 20 to 1 at the absolute least.

D&B vinyl sales are still high. Hardtrance & Hardstyle sales are still reasonable, as are sales of house and breaks, abet on a smaller scale in the case of this shop.

You can't tell me that MP3's are selling more than vinyl. I really can't believe that at all.

yeah, i've heard about alot of hardcore and dnb labels still selling nice amounts of vinyl.......although i dont think hardcore and dnb are big in the mp3 market maybe?

[dirty_bass]

I always wonder the same thing.

My mate owns a record shop. UK Hardcore out sells every techno release by 20 to 1 at the absolute least.

D&B vinyl sales are still high. Hardtrance & Hardstyle sales are still reasonable, as are sales of house and breaks, abet on a smaller scale in the case of this shop.

You can't tell me that MP3's are selling more than vinyl. I really can't believe that at all.

No, people just aren`t buying techno.

[Si the Sigh]

There you go.

Nail on the head.

Well done Steve.

This whole vinyl is on it's way out is no where near as bad as people in the techno scene think, as other genres are doing fine. Even MP3 sales in techno are seriously, seriously low compaired to say the hardcore scene. Thats a fact.

I'd say the problem with sales lies with the music personally.

Ah way, back on topic...

Schranz...

*meh!*

[fatcollective]

There you go.

Nail on the head.

Well done Steve.

This whole vinyl is on it's way out is no where near as bad as people in the techno scene think, as other genres are doing fine. Even MP3 sales in techno are seriously, seriously low compaired to say the hardcore scene. Thats a fact.

I'd say the problem with sales lies with the music personally.

Ah way, back on topic...

Schranz...

*meh!*

damn!! i knew i should have stayed withn the hardcore scene...white gloves, whistles and horns and mass record sales!!

[eyeswithoutaface]

There are very specific reasons within each genre as for why sales are how they are. Comparing UK Hardcore sales with Techno sales is pretty pointless, as the 2 core fanbases are vastly different. Uk Hardcore caters for, on the whole, your typical british chav, who want the fastest, most "aving it" music they can to soundtrack their night of debauchery. I bet you any money that if you compared the amount of people at Hardcore events now who actually dj themselves with the same criteria ten or even 5 years ago and youl notice a difference. Sales have dropped in EVERY genre over the past 5 - 10 years, there's no denying that. Sales in all genres will have their peaks and troughs but eventually it all levels out.

Hardcore might be outselling techno in your mates shop by 20 to 1 Si, but go to a shop over in Berlin, and you can bet your life they wont even stock hardcore records. Sales are more regional now than ever. I dont even have a label and i know this much.