Quote Originally Posted by crime View Post

What I don't get though Sunil, is that it seems you are saying that people like Landstrumm and Vogel, and more "serious" people in this supposed "genre" make "Wonky" music and "serious" music, where is their line? What I mean is, which Neil Landstrumm trax are "serious" and which are "Wonky"?

by making a statment like that, you are yourself saying that "Wonky" is a derogatory term..
No, I said that their tracks have more stain power. To be brutally honest I never saw Landstrumm as 'wonky', I saw him as an experimental techno producer and someone whose music always interested me. If at a push I had to label something "wonky" I'd probably put Birken, Subhead or Forshaw into that bracket quicker - but that's just my interpretation of the 'feeling' of wonky in my own head.

I don't like the term "wonky" any more than you do, but like it or not, it does describe a section of music and producers - some of whom I said deserved not to be tarred only with that brush. And excuse me for not saying "Gaping chasm" instead of "fine line"!... but you know what I was getting at.. and I wasn't out to slam Miditonal or whoever.

You made a good point re: loopy techno - At one stage that wasn't such a bad thing to refer to something as, then it became a dirty phrase once the style was abused... the same way "wonky" has perhaps become a little stigmatised in light of the people who you feel have abused the sound a bit. I don't know if it's derogatory term or not, to some people it is a kind of put down or jokey phrase and music not to be taken seriously - for me it's just a term that is used sometimes (mainly by fans), and it helps me know what they're into. I generally don't use the word myself, in a similar way that I dislike IDM, BUT I'm not going to kill myself over it either :)

Maybe you should just give out to Jerome about this; he's the one that started isn't he?! The wonker...