swedish techno

[The Overfiend]

If only America can be the same.

It's getting a little better. Though americans claim they help push each other, its surprising when they actually do.

Exactly

[Dustin Zahn]

Glenn Wilson had a fair hand in the getting the swedish thing going aswell if im not mistaken, i think he lived there and started a record shop there, and released some of Beyer and Co's earlier work?

Yes, it's true. Glenn might be one of the most under-credited people in the industry in my opinion. When you ask who the people are that really did it for how techno is today you'll always hear about the Bellvue 3 or Jeff Mills, but never Wilson. If it weren't for Wilson, these people wouldn't have had the opportunity to imitate the "jeff mills" sound like you guys claim. ;)

Love or hate the swedish sound, I believe Glenn played a major part in it and its kinda changed how the whole scene is today.

[manuel]

Glenn Wilson had a fair hand in the getting the swedish thing going aswell if im not mistaken, i think he lived there and started a record shop there, and released some of Beyer and Co's earlier work?

Yes, it's true. Glenn might be one of the most under-credited people in the industry in my opinion. When you ask who the people are that really did it for how techno is today you'll always hear about the Bellvue 3 or Jeff Mills, but never Wilson. If it weren't for Wilson, these people wouldn't have had the opportunity to imitate the "jeff mills" sound like you guys claim. ;)

Love or hate the swedish sound, I believe Glenn played a major part in it and its kinda changed how the whole scene is today.

Yep he sure did.
If it weren't for Glenn's top dollar none of the loopy techno would be as famous as it has come to be.

[Col]

ok so far we have:

1. they all help each other out. good old communal spirit.

2. the police deprive them of partys. a sense of repression maybe?

3. and its so cold in sweden that they cant be arsed venturing outside, so they find ways of burning energy indoors, ie knocking out some of the best techno on the planet.

surely there is more to this?

[Col]

or maybe i wish there were something more than this?

[Buttman]

I just think I realized why the techno output is so high in Sweden. Here, unlike many other countries, one can live a totally decent life on welfare. Living on welfare = lots of free time.

In e.g. Slovakia people starve without a job. And how to have time to make loads of techno records if you need a full time job to survive?

I might be cynic but I really think this is the reason.

[Esox Lucius]

Glenn Wilson had a fair hand in the getting the swedish thing going aswell if im not mistaken, i think he lived there and started a record shop there, and released some of Beyer and Co's earlier work?

Yes, it's true. Glenn might be one of the most under-credited people in the industry in my opinion. When you ask who the people are that really did it for how techno is today you'll always hear about the Bellvue 3 or Jeff Mills, but never Wilson. If it weren't for Wilson, these people wouldn't have had the opportunity to imitate the "jeff mills" sound like you guys claim. ;)

Love or hate the swedish sound, I believe Glenn played a major part in it and its kinda changed how the whole scene is today.

I have a lot of respect for glenn, but he isnt in the same league as mills, fowlkes, hood & may etc.

[eyes without a face]

i dont think u could compare him to them to be honest, he's carved a totally different sound to the names youve mentioned, but i can see where ur coming from, the likes of May and Hood are regarded as total living legends.

Buttman - i think youve hit the nail on the head there, the more free time the more u can get into the production. I have to hold down a full time job myself and i can definately say that this stops me from working on music as much as id like to.

[Mattias Fridell (emb)]

Ok, let me in to this.
I am a technoproducer from Sweden so let me join this thread.

First of all, there is many producers which is very good friends such as;
Adam Beyer, Joel Mull, Jesper Dahlbäck, Cari Lekebusch & Tobias von Hofsten. All the people from Stockholm.

Thats is one of the "camps".

Now, in the other "camp" we have artists like Johan Bacto, Hardcell, Hertz, Mhonolink & Henrik B.

My actual opinion about swedish techno is that the artists that I already have mentioned is all good producers, but I dont like their music so much.
It has become a Hype, in my opinion.

Now, we have some artists that I really like from my home country such as; Headroom, Staffan Ehrlin/Slobodan.

We on Embowel records has good contact with both Headroom & Staffan becasuse we really like their kind of techno, the techno that we ourselves is producing and releasing. We have just released one EP so far on Embowel but 5 new releases is upcoming and will be released from October to Mars (we hope), but we have distribution problem rigth now (every label has), and the problem here is that we are NOT in the circle of "the network of friends which are techno producers". This pheomenon can cause problems for labels just like our own.

The thing is we like music like Headroom, Glenn Wilson, Slobodan & The Anxious and we will also release music like that and the scene of that kind of techno is not very big in Sweden. The hard, dark style is not so accepted here.

So, finally, Sweden is a country which contains producers who is "bothers in law" with eachother.

Finally I would like to thank Mark for his good review of our first release 2Solutions EP", Thanks Mark! We really liked it!

[Mr.Ebola]

If you ask me, i would say that there are alot of really good and interesting producers i other regions of Sweden. And bu that i mean the kind that still does it for the kick and friendship with others, and not in a comercial way like Cari Lekebush posing in a ad for some synths wearing
trendy clothes, selling a lifestyle. yack. thats far from underground, right!?

Those few people procuing that slow semifunky mumbojumbo beats may seem good as a first contact in the electronic cene but the "Stockholm techno" fenomenon gets far more credits then it deserves.

Sorry to say, but if i had a label i wouldent release those kind of people as: patrick skoog, hardcell, johan bacto, henrik b, carl lekebush, thomas krome, adam beyer.

[Mattias Fridell (emb)]

"Those few people procuing that slow semifunky mumbojumbo beats may seem good as a first contact in the electronic cene but the "Stockholm techno" fenomenon gets far more credits then it deserves.

Sorry to say, but if i had a label i wouldent release those kind of people as: patrick skoog, hardcell, johan bacto, henrik b, carl lekebush, thomas krome, adam beyer.[/quote]"

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I agree with some of that. Many of them gets far more credit then they deserve.
And We wont release Hardcell, Johan Bacto or Adam Beyer either.

Patrick Skoog is another story, his music is very good if you ask me and
I wont have problems with a Patrick Release on our label, cause his music fits our "musical profile", if you know what I mean. The typical " Stockholm sound" lives on its reputation rhather than quality (my opinion folks, but of course I really like some releases there too), the sound from the Swedish south region is far more intersting.

[The Overfiend]

Not for nothing I've met Cari in Nyc and he didn't come off in any way commercialized. In fact our discussion had more to do with graffiti than the sad state of techno in Sweden which he did concede there was a scene the size of a thumbnail. As far as posing with stylish clothes why knock his opportunity, lets not forget he "raps", and is part of the hip hop culture which is all about check this sh*t out. He still comes correct in my opinion, and that has nothing to do with the fact that he's a damned dirty Swede :clap:
I think I detect a bit of jealousy on your part.

[Mattias Fridell (emb)]

I guess your reply wasn´t ment to me, casue I have nothing against Cari, it´s actually the opposit, Cari, has helped me (us) alot.

And one more thing; Yes, it´s true that the wheater in Sweden is very cold so instead of going out, we stay indoors and create music, hehe.

[Sunil]

If you ask me, i would say that there are alot of really good and interesting producers i other regions of Sweden. And bu that i mean the kind that still does it for the kick and friendship with others, and not in a comercial way like Cari Lekebush posing in a ad for some synths wearing
trendy clothes, selling a lifestyle. yack. thats far from underground, right!?

you can't begrudge him for being in an ad, or even for wearing trendy clothes. what should he have worn, a load of shop soiled seconds from his local charity shop?! it's impossible to stay "underground" your whole career particularly if you are any way successful, and he's been going for the best part of ten years now

[The Overfiend]

I guess your reply wasn´t ment to me, casue I have nothing against Cari, it´s actually the opposit, Cari, has helped me (us) alot.

And one more thing; Yes, it´s true that the wheater in Sweden is very cold so instead of going out, we stay indoors and create music, hehe.

Nah not at all to you.

[Jimfish]

yeah, i dont have a problem with a musician apearing in a synth advert..
synths are objects of pride and affection for most folks like us - i love my music gear and am proud of it, if the people that made it asked me to help them in any way i would be honoured.

[Mattias Fridell (emb)]

The word "underground" is pretty weird if you ask me.
What is it that is so underground by techno music?
I mean, some of us works with techno music and labels, is that underground? We´re trying to live on our music (yeah, i know, many of us works with other things to).

Does people have to look in a certain way to be underground?
When i am talking about "underground" i talk about a white record label which has released a EP in about 50 copies and the artists and the tracks are not even typed on the record.
Well, in my mind it´s like that, but i guess all people have their own opinion.

[Dustin Zahn]

The whole underground mentality is such bullshit, especially now with the advent of the internet.

And Cari, why knock him? This is what Cari does. If someone offered me money or decent looking clothes to endorse them, hell I'd do it. It's not like him posing in a ****ing ad changes how his music sounds. And also, techno doesn't pay the bills like many of you think...so imo anything is welcome.

At the end of the day, its up to you how you feel about these producers from Sweden. What I do know for a producers stand-point is that their production and mastering is definetely tops. Especially artists such as Joel Mull, the sound quality is extremely impressive and puts a lot of other producers to shame. I'm not nessecarily saying the music is great 100% of the time...but the sound quality is always on point. This is my opinion.

[Col]

i can pick up on what your sayin dustin, even with the likes of hardcell, bacto, and hertz, the quality of production is immense, so clean and yet so crisp.

[MARKEG]

The word "underground" is pretty weird if you ask me.
What is it that is so underground by techno music?
I mean, some of us works with techno music and labels, is that underground? We´re trying to live on our music (yeah, i know, many of us works with other things to).

ahhhemmmm i think i've just wet myself :)