adam beyer

[fac]

as a matter of principle your statement is right. but nowadays i cant see that many producers doing it deeply from their hearts. i always hear apologies like "but i have to pay my rent". i say fu.ck it! if music cant pay your rent you have to get a fu.cking job.

[rhythmtech]

as a matter of principle your statement is right. but nowadays i cant see that many producers doing it deeply from their hearts. i always hear apologies like "but i have to pay my rent". i say fu.ck it! if music cant pay your rent you have to get a fu.cking job.

with all due respect m8 you need to come down off your horse. everyone is entitled to do what they do.. i say fu.ck it. if you can make money from music to help you do what you wanna do then so be it.. many people have families and homes. are they meant to make music that appeals purely to the underground and live off the social welfare?

[rhythmtech]

and before you say it im not condoning "selling out" but if someone makes a tune that they know will appeal commercially then y not put it out there and get something back for your work? theres plenty of good music out there that has commercial appeal.. it doesnt have to be only liked by 3 people in brataslavia to make it good.

[Jay Pace]

Everyone should work in a factory to keep their art pure and unsullied by dirty commercialism.

Making music that sells well is the work of the devil.

[rhythmtech]

but factories are SO commercial these days, i find.

[fac]

are they meant to make music that appeals purely to the underground and live off the social welfare?

if music cant pay your rent you have to get a fu.cking job.

if you "tune" your music in a way it sells better, fine. nothing wrong with it. but then dont tell me it is deep from your heart. cause its bollocks. i read a great post from mark hawkins here some time ago. he wrote since he had a regular job he was more satisfied with the music he did cause there wasnt the pressure to sell loads of it. he did what he wanted to do not what the market wanted him to do.

[rhythmtech]

if you "tune" your music in a way it sells better, fine. nothing wrong with it. but then dont tell me it is deep from your heart. cause its bollocks. i read a great post from mark hawkins here some time ago. he wrote since he had a regular job he was more satisfied with the music he did cause there wasnt the pressure to sell loads of it. he did what he wanted to do not what the market wanted him to do.

im not talking about tuning your music at all... but i know from my experience that when i write a tune i write a tune.. it goes where it goes - underground, commercial, whatever..

surely if you SET OUT to write music thats purely underground then thats just as bad? music should be whatever you feel at the time of writing, and if thats commercially viable then lucky you.

[robin m]

surely if you SET OUT to write music thats purely underground then thats just as bad? music should be whatever you feel at the time of writing, and if thats commercially viable then lucky you.

Totally agree

I'm not knocking anyone's approach or reasons to write music, just saying that I think that the majority of music that's truly great was made for passion rather than profit.

[audioinjection]

I just want to make music that I want to make, if I get recognized for it, and I get paid for it, then big ups to me......otherwise, I'll just stick with my current job to pay the bills.

[fac]

I just want to make music that I want to make, if I get recognized for it, and I get paid for it, then big ups to me......otherwise, I'll just stick with my current job to pay the bills.

can i give you a hug? :)

[eyeswithoutaface]

your all thinking way too much

Beyer isnt gonna give a ****ing toss what a bunch of people on message board are saying about him when their bored so i dont see why people should get so het up about it. As for writing music to sell etc, well, DUH! who doesnt want good sales? you show me one person who doesnt want to sell records and i'l show you a liar. There is no frigging underground these days, there hasnt been for years. You either make music and have great sales, make music and have average sales or make music and have poor sales. That's about the be all and end all of it when it comes to the production/creation of music side of things within this scene

[rhythmtech]

i dont think i want my kids to grow up in a world where scott talks sense.. im scared

[fac]

Beyer isnt gonna give a ****ing toss what a bunch of people on message board are saying about him when their bored

i thought he was reading all the stuff here and changes his sound tomorrow...

[dubs]

Beyer has a shiny head. Maybe he should try growing hair for a change.

[The Overfiend]

I just want to make music that I want to make, if I get recognized for it, and I get paid for it, then big ups to me......otherwise, I'll just stick with my current job to pay the bills.

Exactly
I think what is part of it David, is that we come from the generation of the go getter, bigger is better mindstate, and know that 10 to 20 successful techno records a year still will not give you financial stability. At least in our neck of the woods. I'll continue to make what I like, and drive my SUV and proceed to law school, while Mr. I'mtheHottestDjInTheClubYouNeverHeardOfFollowUpFor AnyJockWithIntegrity Has Their Open Bar wishes and ecstasy pill induced fantasy of being one of the big boys. If it is in your cards then so be it, if not don't knock the ones that made it. They earned it with whatever practices they put into play.

Beyer was & is just that damn good.

[eyeswithoutaface]

If beyer was reading this i'd hope he'd be appreciative enough off all positive reactions to his creative output and actually post his opinion aswell, surely?? And he does get positive reactions here i think, on the whole, it's agreed he's done alot for techno and i personally still love hearing the old drumcodes as much as the new minimal stuff, i love it all.

I think thats one thing we would always agree on Tony, Beyer definately kills it and always has.

[Tiptoe]

sometimes can't believe the amout of pages and fuss that goes on about something like this. The guys done a lot for techno and that alone should be enough for someone even if they don't like his newer stuff to not moan about it. Can't believe we have these topics sometimes!

[dan the acid man]

If beyer was reading this i'd hope he'd be appreciative enough off all positive reactions to his creative output and actually post his opinion aswell, surely?? And he does get positive reactions here i think, on the whole, it's agreed he's done alot for techno and i personally still love hearing the old drumcodes as much as the new minimal stuff, i love it all.

I think thats one thing we would always agree on Tony, Beyer definately kills it and always has.

word to that

[Clit Commander]

If beyer was reading this i'd hope he'd be appreciative enough off all positive reactions to his creative output and actually post his opinion aswell, surely?? And he does get positive reactions here i think, on the whole, it's agreed he's done alot for techno and i personally still love hearing the old drumcodes as much as the new minimal stuff, i love it all.

I think thats one thing we would always agree on Tony, Beyer definately kills it and always has.

He's reading, don't worry about that. I'm sure all the positive support is what keeps him motivated to work as hard as he has from day one over 10 years ago.

[loopdon]

if you "tune" your music in a way it sells better, fine. nothing wrong with it. but then dont tell me it is deep from your heart. cause its bollocks. i read a great post from mark hawkins here some time ago. he wrote since he had a regular job he was more satisfied with the music he did cause there wasnt the pressure to sell loads of it. he did what he wanted to do not what the market wanted him to do.

you doing any kind of music yourself, mate? just interested.

i love such a lot of different kinds of music from ''deep in my heart'' that i really can't follow your path of thought.... what works for Mark Hawkins works for Mark, but it is his(!) reality/situation - not necessarily that of the rest of us, eh? stuff that was commercial yesterday can be a niche product ever so quickly and the other way round. do i have to stop doing something or may i not try something just because it's commercially successful at this point in time???