Retracing history to predict where techno is going.

[prozac]

i think music has become too pigeon holed. Too many producers releasing the same sound over and over...
diverse eps is a great idea.
unfortunately its the same with most nights out. warm up dj plays the same as the main dj. it can get really boring.

This is a problem with techno at the moment I think, cause I do go to other gigs where there is a nice mash up (usually resulting in end of night breakcore!).

[MangaFish]

i think music has become too pigeon holed. Too many producers releasing the same sound over and over...
diverse eps is a great idea.
unfortunately its the same with most nights out. warm up dj plays the same as the main dj. it can get really boring.

This is a problem with techno at the moment I think, cause I do go to other gigs where there is a nice mash up (usually resulting in end of night breakcore!).

It's a problem with EDM throughout.

[fac]

one of the main problems is that a big part of the crowd is not open-minded. an example:

bitstream played here last june. berghain is a techno club and there is always played 4/4 stuff. so i quite wondered they had invited bitstream. the dj who played the warm up (i really admire him cause he always plays fantastic stuff) made a really big mistake. he played 4/4 stuff all the way although he should have known that bitstream were an electro/idm act. so when they began their set after 5 minutes almost the whole floor was empty. only cause the played (really brilliant) electro. i mean it is ****in electro. its not so far away from techno like breakcore for example. how stupid can people be?!

lots of the (local) djs dont have the nuts to play some different stuff. one of the reasons is the little story i mentioned above.

[SlavikSvensk]

i always end up saying this on the "techno going forward" type threads, but the key is

fewer tracks
more songs

make more music of lasting, rather than fleeting, value.

ignore trends unless you use them strictly as a frame of reference to make music that has value outside a given tiny substratum of techno or a particular year.

[force]

SONGS??????

You'll be saying 'Make it more R&B'ish' next!!!

[SlavikSvensk]

SONGS??????

You'll be saying 'Make it more R&B'ish' next!!!

the point is simple: make music that's a lasting statement. not just bang-bang-blip-blip like all the rest so no one cares in 2 years.

listen to old basic channel records. they were minimal, they were repetitive, but they were SONGS. and they STILL sound better than any "minimal" made today.

[fac]

listen to old basic channel records. they were minimal, they were repetitive, but they were SONGS. and they STILL sound better than any "minimal" made today.

couldnt agree more

[dirty_bass]

one of the main problems is that a big part of the crowd is not open-minded. an example:

bitstream played here last june. berghain is a techno club and there is always played 4/4 stuff. so i quite wondered they had invited bitstream. the dj who played the warm up (i really admire him cause he always plays fantastic stuff) made a really big mistake. he played 4/4 stuff all the way although he should have known that bitstream were an electro/idm act. so when they began their set after 5 minutes almost the whole floor was empty. only cause the played (really brilliant) electro. i mean it is ****in electro. its not so far away from techno like breakcore for example. how stupid can people be?!

lots of the (local) djs dont have the nuts to play some different stuff. one of the reasons is the little story i mentioned above.

this can be a problem, people as a whole aren`t too open for change, until that "diference" is popular enough to be acceptable.
Which is a double edged sword.

However, you can never predict where a music will go, and hopefully should never be able too.
I don`t think the comparisons to early minimal techno productions and the stuff made now stand up.
What is called minimal now is closer to house really in groove and tempo, and has a certain style, rather than just containing less sounds, and therefore being minimal.

Even then, when you talk about predicting where techno is going, really what you are talking about, is what the majority of techno fans will consider cool to listen/dance too.
Techno is already going in a hundred different directions, but unfortunately somewhere in the chain, the promoters, DJ`s, or party goers, really seem to want monochromatic sounds at their events.

I hope for the future that the fans will want to embrace the backlash against stagnation that has caused lots of producers to fly off in all sorts of directions, and that we will see events with a good cross section of techno sounds.
Really the sound in you average techno club hasn`t change that much in the last 4-6 years. New records, same sound.

So where techno goes is not really a question for me, I hope it goes everywhere, I just wish/hope, that the fans open up to more diversity.