Retracing history to predict where techno is going.

[fac]

listen to old basic channel records. they were minimal, they were repetitive, but they were SONGS. and they STILL sound better than any "minimal" made today.

couldnt agree more

[Martin Dust]

couldnt agree more

There's plenty of good stuff out there, what are you guys listening to that's so shit?

[fac]

There's plenty of good stuff out there

agree again. but for me not among this so-called minimal stuff.

[Martin Dust]

agree again. but for me not among this so-called minimal stuff.

You not feeling things like Bitstream, Stott, Claro etc?

[fac]

where is bitstream minimal? i know not one single minimal track from them. i like some records from andy stott and claro intelecto tho. but thats the more detroit oriented stuff.

[MangaFish]

see that's the problem with labelling stuff. I hate genre names - it serves no good at all

[Clit Commander]

There's plenty of good minimal stuff out there at the moment (ala Basic Channel, Rob Hood, etc.). Try checking out the Deepchord or Echochord labels. It's really great dubbed out minimal...as in there is literally only like a synth, a kick drum and a hi hat, sometimes not even that. Rod Modell makes some great stuff and Vanquier just put out something recently as well.

It's kind of like Dirty Bass said, the stuff classified these days as minimal is actually more like house music than minimal. The world minimal has just become an umbrella term just like techno is. And as Darkside said, there is plenty of good music going around at the moment...so if you're not finding quality music then you're not looking hard enough.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing techno move down to the BPM of like 115bpm jackin acid-house type tracks. Bring some old school flare, b-boy attitude, and 80s influence into the mix.

[massplanck]

The future of techno is pretty bleak. A genre of music that relies on electricy more than any other trying to survive in world of energy efficiency & climate change. Its faint memory carried on by Mad-Max style troubadors, haunting the land, singing songs of a world long extinct.

Techno has about as much of a future as ancient greek music did.

[dirty_bass]

The future of techno is pretty bleak. A genre of music that relies on electricy more than any other trying to survive in world of energy efficiency & climate change. Its faint memory carried on by Mad-Max style troubadors, haunting the land, singing songs of a world long extinct.

Techno has about as much of a future as ancient greek music did.

What does that leave for the future of music in general then, minus electronics?

Symphonic, ok I can dig that.
Folk? evil dirge
irish folk? evil dirge that thinks it better than it is because it`s irish
Rock bands playing accoustically? poncey turgid wailing middle class trash

In fact without electricity a hell of a lot of music will die, as well as the means of playing it at home, as well as lighting your home etc.

[Clit Commander]

LOLZERS @ that argument. Generating electricity to power things (and make techno) is a problem which is much easier to solve than most forthcoming doomsday scenarios. You would have more to worry about such as disease, heat, starvation, lack of clean water, and war than you do having electricity to power 909s, iPods, and laptops.

It's also pretty ridiculous to link the fall of a corrupt ancient civilization to the popularity-loss of a genre of modern music.

[djshiva]

The future of techno is pretty bleak. A genre of music that relies on electricy more than any other trying to survive in world of energy efficiency & climate change. Its faint memory carried on by Mad-Max style troubadors, haunting the land, singing songs of a world long extinct.

Techno has about as much of a future as ancient greek music did.

but there will always be things to turn into percussion instruments...so when the world goes mad, we'll all go Einstürzende Neubauten-ish and just roll rocks thru pipes and bang on abandoned cars... ;)

[SlavikSvensk]

There's plenty of good stuff out there, what are you guys listening to that's so shit?

i DO like dust science...

[massplanck]

Sarcasm gets lost on a whole lot of people.

[MangaFish]

Sarcasm gets lost on a whole lot of people.

I got it:;