hardstyle(bye bye)

[MARKEG]

imo you have to choose your records properly. ppl aren't dissin hardstyle, they're dissin dj's that are playing totally crap hardstyle same-bass orientated wank for their whole sets!

there's such good hardstyle at the mo and also such bad hardstyle. and tbh you can't JUST play hardstyle at the mo for a whole set in the UK cause if you're a music person, it get's boring.

like always, it's the clever DJ's that shine through :)

[Jay M]

imo you have to choose your records properly. ppl aren't dissin hardstyle, they're dissin dj's that are playing totally crap hardstyle same-bass orientated wank for their whole sets!

there's such good hardstyle at the mo and also such bad hardstyle. and tbh you can't JUST play hardstyle at the mo for a whole set in the UK cause if you're a music person, it get's boring.

like always, it's the clever DJ's that shine through :)

here here ;)

[A-lusion]

maybe hardstyle, as you know it, is getting less popular in england.
but here in holland we have thousands of people partying on hardstyle every week, on friday, saturday and sunday.
Since the first hardstyle parties here in Holland around 2001, it has only grown bigger.
And something that grows bigger gets commercially attractive.
but no.. hardstyle is definately not dying, it's only changing.

[Tim Hidgem]

like always, it's the clever DJ's that shine through :)

Nail - Head - Hit!!

No matter what type of music is the flavour of the month.

Sets containing variety and personality will survive!!

[Voorheez]

You can have variety and personality whilst still playing just hardstyle though. Hardstyle can be very varied, it just takes a good dj to play a varied set.

[ADDI]

You can have variety and personality whilst still playing just hardstyle though. Hardstyle can be very varied, it just takes a good dj to play a varied set.

:clap:

[Sincs]

Umm, if you try mixing Hardstyle with techno and freeform all together, you will come out with a pretty shit hot set IMHO.

For me, if you just play acid tranc, or just techno, the set soon get pisspoor for me, and I walk off to find something different.

For me, a set has to incorporate many different sounds (apart from hoovers) to keep the punters entertained.

[Hakka.]

But 'the certain promoter' still books M Zone. It's the same 'certain promoter' who entered me into the dj competition last year and then asked me to tone my style down. I'm betting it's also the reason why said club is getting a drastic downturn in customers. I don't think it's that the people don't like hardstyle - they do, just that one promoter doesn't like it, so denies his crowd it.

Personally I don't see that hardstyle is getting a bad rep down here. I don't frequent any of the record stores anymore to be fair, so I may be ignorant to it but as far as I can see, all dance music is getting a gradual decline in interest down here - no other style is really prevelant is it?

When it comes down to it, it doesn't really concern me that much anyway because I believe that a Dj can only truly be great whilst playing the music they love. I love hardstyle, and i'll play it as long as I do. Even if no-one else likes it or has a bad attitude towards it i'll still play it.

Agreed mate...

[Tim Hidgem]

You can have variety and personality whilst still playing just hardstyle though. Hardstyle can be very varied, it just takes a good dj to play a varied set.

I totally agree my man.

I think thats why I like Hardstyle so much. Not that I think its the be all and end all of hard dance music cause to be honest its pretty basic but it is very versitile much means you can drop in Hard Trance and Techno and show off your crowd reaction and set building skills.

[mister obedaih]

maybe hardstyle, as you know it, is getting less popular in england.
but here in holland we have thousands of people partying on hardstyle every week, on friday, saturday and sunday.
Since the first hardstyle parties here in Holland around 2001, it has only grown bigger.
And something that grows bigger gets commercially attractive.
but no.. hardstyle is definately not dying, it's only changing.

True words :clap: But im hope we don't get happyhardcore or to commercial hardstyle, i think it's good for the style that it will go a bit more underground again, cause if hardstyle will go on much longer i think we gonna lose the real style :dontevengothere:

[piginabush]

I do know what you are saying, Mr P......

however, I think there will always be a hardcore of hardstyle DJ's here in the SW who will keep pushing the scene, even if the "other promoter (nudge nudge)" asks people to tone down their sets.

[dj vorny]

what promoter is this then thats askin djs to sell out play what u want and love dont play what they want never give up pushin a style u like keep it real boys and girls kepp it HARDSTYLE peace out

[Voorheez]

I've been thinking about this subject quite a bit since it was mentioned. It's not really very nice to hear that the music you play is now ridiculed by people and disrespected, but I do sort of see evidence of it now.

Personally I think a lot of these people are too into labeling. On a cd I gave out a while ago I labeled it hard trance when in truth 99% of it was hardstyle - it was widely accepted by many more people than the cd that I gave out last, which was labeled as hardstyle. Why? Because people are too put off by a label i've put upon it. Hardstyle is sort of becoming a dirty word in underground circles, but with little real substance behind people's prejudices. The truth is that if I labeled myself as a hard trance dj and still played the same stuff I play, people would enjoy it. It's all in the name.

All these people who were so into hardstyle last month but hate it now are the worst kind of people in dance music - people who are just into fads, what music is the 'in' music at the time (even if it is in underground terms). These people are in it for all the wrong reasons.

[dj vorny]

All these people who were so into hardstyle last month but hate it now are the worst kind of people in dance music - people who are just into fads, what music is the 'in' music at the time (even if it is in underground terms). These people are in it for all the wrong reasons.

innit mate i will milk hardstyle till the cows nipples are sore :lol: naa i know why be bothered what ppl think if u like playing it play it ;)

[DJ Pearcey]

to true voorheez,your opinion is really valued by me cause your allways taliking sense m8! respect.

It is wrong that hardstyle has become a dirty word in some circles

Some dj's seem to think if its hard its shit, you know the kind of people I mean the ones that see softer dance music as REAL DANCE MUSIC.

[Pots]

To me dance music is and probably always has been seperated into categories of what people percieve to be 'intelligent' forms, and those that are 'simple'. Progressive music, techno and breaks are percieved to at the most 'intelligent' end of the scale. For most people, i think trance comes somewhere in the middle (i think this is total bollocks), then further down the scale you have the 'harder' forms - hard house, hard trance and hardstyle. Some people will jump on something that sounds fresh, like hardstyle, before suddenly jumping off it when they realise its 'percieved' as being less intelligent.

I wouldn't deny hardstyle has lower production values than say techno. But since when has jumping up and down on a dancefloor like a monkey been about intelligence.

[Voorheez]

Yeah, dead on m8 - if you have to think 'is this percieved as intelligent?' when you listen, you're being extremely pretentious. Just like what you like and don't worry about other people like (or don't like).

I have a few friends who are into house music and I know that they constantly look down their noses at me for playing what I play. It doesn't bother me, it really doesn't. Personally I can listen to house music and like some of it because I don't judge it on how I think others like it. They would never dream of listening to hardstyle, and I find that quite sad.

[Pots]

Pretentiousness is unfortunately a massive part of the successful club scene up here in Sheffield... On particular nights, me and my friend will be the only people on the whole dancefloor bold enough to bounce around and actually look like we're enjoying ourselves, which is a pretty sorry state of affairs. Sad thing is, this friend is rarely in town and I'm not really into solo clubbing. Smaller nights, where people leave their preconceptions at the door and go for a good time are so much better.

[MARKEG]

wow how this subject is playing on my mind. and how it becomes 'fashionable' to slag a style of music. no matter what genre it is. hardstyle is becoming something that ppl can slag. and the reason being is because there are too many DJ's who can get hold of this 'new' form of music and play it with no passion of skill or intelligence.

i agree with an earlier thing said by mzone, the problem in the first place was creating the genre. then everyone jumped on it. but the italians had to do it to sell music. now ppl have something else to slag. but it was always going to be done. there's nothing we could do to change this.

but now what can we do? we can't disown it cause we love so much about it. we have to find a way through the clouds. just think more intelligently about the way you program stuff. that's what i'm trying to do. don't go for the obvious records. look to the future, not for just now. surely that is going to bring us through????

[Paul Nisbet]

Yeah totally... just gonna ave too spend a couple more hours going thru more music and finding stuff that is that little different and harder too get a hold of.

Its all the better when ur genre comes out of the little dive its having (Everyscene has one) and starts coming up with the goods again, then u can go pack to these dingles and show them how things ave got better.

Lets not forget that i find personally that everything sorta goes quiet just now, and probs will be till feb or something, so im not really pooping my pants too much as there are new hardstyle labels popping up left, right and centre which is class. Think its time some of the bigger artists in the scene take a grip of it and force it into a new direction... ie technoboy, vortex etc . I like both of them but for me have found they ave become a little stale... so once u have a couple of there tunes, u cant justify buying another as it isnt goin too add anything different too ur set.