England v Spain

**robin m** · 07-02-2007, 11:01 PM

Jesus. What a waste of a couple of hours of my life... utter crap.

**basslinejunkie** · 07-02-2007, 11:15 PM

we got beat,what a surprise..............

**SlavikSvensk** · 07-02-2007, 11:52 PM

no offense, but you guys really suck right now, and not because you lack talent. i feel like sven's been vindicated to a degree...

**basslinejunkie** · 08-02-2007, 01:15 AM

you know what us english are like.where never happy,sven got nafted of coz he was ramming women.whats wrong with that?!?

i just feel people hype the england team up far to much,take the blinkers of an realise were miles behind plenty of other national teams.

**prozac** · 08-02-2007, 01:22 AM

i think england get hyped up too much too...
I didnt see the game, but Il have a guess and say england couldnt hold on to the ball for any length of time, and that they never looked like carving spain open....?

**SlavikSvensk** · 08-02-2007, 04:42 AM

sure england's overhyped, but under sven england was always competitive. did well if not fabulous in all the tournaments.

well, maybe he'll come coach us when lagerback steps down...

heja sverige!

**Esox Lucius** · 08-02-2007, 07:16 AM

haha ingerland are shit

ireland won though :; even if it was against san marino :cheese:

**lukekendall** · 08-02-2007, 07:45 AM

well glad i didnt bother watching it, i new it would be crap!!

same old! same old! till we get a decent manager like all the other countrys have........

**french_og** · 08-02-2007, 08:14 AM

England are not as god as we think we are. We don't have any world class flare players and Maclaren is useless.

Alardyce should of been manager from the start. At least he would of picked the correct sides and got the best out of the players.

Mclaren is meant to be this top coach yet we have not strung 5 passes together since he took over as manager. They should sack him now before it is too late.

The formation last night was a mess - Croach did ok but we had nobody running off him - should of played Defoe with him.

Wright Phillips was terrible, Gerrard terrible, Carrick terrible, Lampard terrible, Phil Neville terrible. I can't believe how many passees we gave away and its shocking how we can not look after the ball.

There is a real lack of quality passing and crossing since Beckham was dropped.

**Esox Lucius** · 08-02-2007, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by french_og

England are not as god as we think we are.

could have told you that years ago.

**prozac** · 08-02-2007, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Esox Lucius

haha ingerland are shit

ireland won though :; even if it was against san marino :cheese:

with a 95th minute winner!

make sure to check the goal Ireland conceded on the news today, nothing on youtube yet. Its up there with Reina V Everton in levels of stupidity....

**digitalboy** · 08-02-2007, 11:03 AM

ask fergie if he'll do the job.

**Insomnia** · 08-02-2007, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by digitalboy

ask fergie if he'll do the job.

Fergie should have taken the scotland job lately!

**Aratron** · 08-02-2007, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by SlavikSvensk

no offense, but you guys really suck right now, and not because you lack talent. i feel like sven's been vindicated to a degree...

i think your right dude.

if you look at his record.

england are shan mass

**SlavikSvensk** · 08-02-2007, 08:15 PM

i've never been a big beckham fan, as i think he's basically a set-piece and corner specialist and not all round great. but the idea that the best set-piece and corner kick man in england's recent history wouldn't even be useful coming off the bench is just ridiculous. even if all he did was play the second half, kick corners and not get in the way the rest of the game, he'd give england chances to score it doesn't have without him.

then that godawful formation experiment when playing croatia in zagreb (who haven't lost there ever) was beyond stupid.

i figure he was trying to send a message that he was going to do things differently, but sometimes you just don't fix what ain't broke...

and those are only the beginnings of his problems. good players are underperforming.

**Aratron** · 08-02-2007, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by SlavikSvensk

i've never been a big beckham fan, as i think he's basically a set-piece and corner specialist and not all round great. but the idea that the best set-piece and corner kick man in england's recent history wouldn't even be useful coming off the bench is just ridiculous. even if all he did was play the second half, kick corners and not get in the way the rest of the game, he'd give england chances to score it doesn't have without him.

then that godawful formation experiment when playing croatia in zagreb (who haven't lost there ever) was beyond stupid.

i figure he was trying to send a message that he was going to do things differently, but sometimes you just don't fix what ain't broke...

and those are only the beginnings of his problems. good players are underperforming.

smart analysis

**french_og** · 09-02-2007, 08:39 AM

Mclaren has not got a clue - i personally think a 3-5-2 formation would work but what Mclaren did against Croatia was play 5-3-2 - which was 5 defenders, then played 2 holding midfielders and only one real striker. No wonder it never worked.

Then again against spain 4-3-3 but only one regonised striker.

Anyway what ever formation he played there is no excuse for giving the ball away as much as we do. Some of the players the other night were giving simple 5 yard passes away. This is not exceptable at any level.

**lukekendall** · 09-02-2007, 09:24 AM

the other thing he has to do is drop lampard i mean it has to be between him and gerrard and everyone knows gerrerd has so much more class!! lampard scores more goals but the chelsea system allows him too! and the amount of shots he has he is going to get a lot of goals!

gerrard and hargreeves in the centre, lennon and j.cole on the wings would be and amazing BALANCED midfield! when they are fit like....

**french_og** · 09-02-2007, 09:43 AM

Yeah i agree with that midfield. He needs to get tough and drop Lampard although Gerrard was shocking the other night and was as bad as anyone at giving it away. Maybe he may play better without Lampard and with Hargreaves holding but Gerrard needs to start performing for England as he has not played well for England for a long time.

**lukekendall** · 09-02-2007, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by french_og

Yeah i agree with that midfield. He needs to get tough and drop Lampard although Gerrard was shocking the other night and was as bad as anyone at giving it away. Maybe he may play better without Lampard and with Hargreaves holding but Gerrard needs to start performing for England as he has not played well for England for a long time.

true that mate he aint! the best players in the world cup were hargreeves, ferdinand and lennon when he came on, i would say they were the best team players and are players that dont think they are untouchable

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