Extreme panning in club music?

[Jay Pace]

We run in stereo at Filth, as far as I'm aware.

One time Dom accidentally wired up the rear speakers the wrong way round and if you stood in the middle of the room it played all kinds of funny tricks on your mind.

Sounds like he had them out of phase. If the speakers are out of phase frequencies get cancelled out and it sounds weird.

Nearly all PA's run in mono to avoid phase issues, and because it makes the most efficient use of amps. You get the most power out of an amp by bridging it - combining the stereo channels of the amp into one output thus massively increasing the power.

[dirty_bass]

Sounds like he had them out of phase. If the speakers are out of phase frequencies get cancelled out and it sounds weird.

Nearly all PA's run in mono to avoid phase issues, and because it makes the most efficient use of amps. You get the most power out of an amp by bridging it - combining the stereo channels of the amp into one output thus massively increasing the power.

not only that, but to make efective placement of cabinets to get workable stereo in your average club, it`s just too difficult.

The placement of the soundsystem is normally low on the list of priorities in all but the greatest of nightclubs.
Shame really.

But then, I¬m a Rig junkie anyway.

[TechMouse]

not only that, but to make efective placement of cabinets to get workable stereo in your average club, it`s just too difficult.

The placement of the soundsystem is normally low on the list of priorities in all but the greatest of nightclubs.
Shame really.

But then, I¬m a Rig junkie anyway.

The main room at BluePrint is roughly rectangular and we bring our own stack.

[dirty_bass]

The main room at BluePrint is roughly rectangular and we bring our own stack.

But why run stereo?
If it`s a permanent set up, I understand it, like brixton academy, as there is time to sort proper placement out, and at least get a reasonable wide angle coverage for the stereo effect (even though the sound at the brixton academy is generally ass)
We used to run 80K superstacks at at raindance, all one array too, still didn`t do stereo though, it leads to so many problems with accoustics etc.

[TechMouse]

I could be wrong, we might be feeding the same signal to both stacks.

It sounds great, anyway.

[dirty_bass]

I could be wrong, we might be feeding the same signal to both stacks.

It sounds great, anyway.

I was gonna say, you might as well just run mono, and concentrate on getting the crossovers set up just right, and the eq perfect, than dealing with stereo.
You`ll get more efficiency out of the amps too.

[stjohn]

i find the best way is to just have the 'trans' effect on the pioneer 600 (dave clarke style) on constantly so the beat just jumps from left to right. cant get more stereo than that

[TechMouse]

I was gonna say, you might as well just run mono, and concentrate on getting the crossovers set up just right, and the eq perfect, than dealing with stereo.
You`ll get more efficiency out of the amps too.

I really ought to spend more time learning how it all works to be honest. Dom really knows his stuff, and I should really take advantage of the opportunity to learn.

I was quite sure it's in stereo though, because I think the balance control on the mixer works.

[TechMouse]

Sounds like he had them out of phase. If the speakers are out of phase frequencies get cancelled out and it sounds weird.

No, not out of phase... is that even possible with Speakon connectors?