RIP Acid Techno?

[Si the Sigh]

Maybe I'm different in opinion than most, but unless you are absolutely fine with fading into obscurity while you do something so different in an effort to do something new, I just don't understand why artists don't do exactly what you describe above, while varying on it slightly, unless they have lost the plot. I'd love to hear some of that 96 tranced out hard acid sound come back again and it has absolutely nothing to do with any nostalgia or memories from the time. Rather, it was just a sound that grabbed me more than most others I've heard.

Thank you! Some one else gets where I'm coming from. :)

Also, whats happened to the labels within the SUF Collectives output? They all used to supply a certain sound, ie; acid trance & acid techno (SUF) techno (Cluster for example), and tech house (Yolk for example).

The labels were started to put out a certain type of sound.

Now you've got the same sounds coming out on all the labels, and new producers supplying nothing new, too many clone sounds. The labels are loosing their identity, and IMO the sound of London acid techno is getting lost.

It's time to go back to the roots and save the sound.

If techno going minimal is it's restart of it gaining popularity, then acid techno needs to do the same.

Acid techno needs to get back to basics.

"Back to the basic element...back"

Damn, I need to get into the studio soon...

Maybe I'd stop moaning then! :)

[Si the Sigh]

Now you've got the same sounds coming out on all the labels, and new producers supplying nothing new, too many clone sounds. The labels are loosing their identity, and IMO the sound of London acid techno is getting lost.

Thats not a diss towards the new producers on the scene by the way, but I don't hear anything fresh coming from them.

[rhythmtech]

Thats not a diss towards the new producers on the scene by the way, but I don't hear anything fresh coming from them.

to be honest si i think thats mostly to do with the collective having an idea what sound they want themselves.

if you look at new producers when they release on labels not involved with the collective its a differant story. ie android.. his other stuff is totally differant from his powertools/cluster stuff.

from my own side of things, damaged trax is nothing like the collective stuff i hope, i dont mean that as a diss to suf but i want to carve my own sound. but for the stuff i've done for suf i needed to supply them with a perticular style. if i'm asked for a stayupforever tune then theres no real point in giving them funky techno.

but i do see your point on labels like yolk. i think yolk, although still releasing some great tracks, has lost its vision a little BUT on the other hand its chris's label so possibly chris's vision for the label has changed?

[tocsin]

Damn, I need to get into the studio soon...
Maybe I'd stop moaning then! :)

Word. What do you use for production now? Feel like doing a net collab? I'd love to work on some 96 style acid and tweak it. :)

[Si the Sigh]

At the moment, my head! :)

My PC's at my mates getting sorted out after a few problems. Well, it's been there for about 3 - 4 months. Really need to ring him later...

Once I'm back up and running though I wanna get straight back on it, get these tracks out of my head!

[Little_Fella!]

I just wanted to pick up on Si The Sigh's point regarding identity and the hard dance scene....

I came from a Hard House/Hard Trance background then found Acid Techno properly once I moved to London..

At first I thought, "What a great combination the two would make..". This was naive as became clear when it happened...

Now, I remember when Dave The Drummer did a remix of Energy Flash on Nkleuz B-side which I duly bought... at the time I was only buying nothing but Acid & Techno so the A-side BK thing did nothing for me but I was so pleased because the B-side held it's own - it was Dave The Drummer making his style of Techno cohesive to the scene that he and the S.U.F. collective had created...

Fine and dandy... But uh oh... those producers and D.J.'s had found something that made all the difference when it came to needing to play something that didn't have an off beat bassline synonymous to Hard House...

[Little_Fella!]

This added a new dimension to there sets... Gave there prowess' a much needed boosting.. The likes of Lisa Pin-Up, pretty thing that she is, jumpin up n down raisin' the crowd a bit more, improving the mood as her set entered it's last hour....

What was she playing? Tunes with the familiar Acid techno bassline that was used in the late eighties Chicago/Detroit acid sound and utilised to good effect by S.U.F. n friends, as we know...

Basically, in my eyes, they stole this ethos from the Acid techno scene and used it to boost there own... Teaming up with the larger Hard dance scene will have seemed financially attractive at the time but I think it watered down the strength and purpose and meaning that S.U.F. represented....

The Hard Dance scene just took and gave nothing back, which makes my blood boil...