"techno is too white"

[jonnyspeed]

Go to an R&B night at subterranea and that is almost 100% black.

I would rather wank with sandpaper then get my mum to stamp on my sore red hard cock than go anywhere near an R&B club.

Otherwise I correct myself on the D&B front in the last few years is more mixed. I remember a Metalheadz night in BlueNote in 1997/8 that was almost all black but a few trustafarians in the corner. The last D&B night I went to was at the Fortress in Clarkenwell and that was 80% white. So I'm talking out my arse again.

Sorry folks.

[VOMATRON]

I just figured out that you can say cunt , cock , arse , dick , fanny , cuntface , cunthead , cuntybaws, you cunt , he's a cunt,she's a cunt , but you can't say ****


L.O.L.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[The Overfiend]

Remember this?

[Technologic]

as quoted from a recent magazine cover article with dave clarke.
i did think it through and reached a few conclusions.
techno, i feel is colourless in who it appeals to, but has definitions within its expression.
example: jackin stuff is clearly super black, though not exclusively written by black artists.
on another angle, the total flat out 4/4 approach could be described as distinctly white, but again not produced by exclusively white artists.

i would agree with dave on these points:
there is less total black sound to the techno released nowadays. there is no major movement for jackin chicago sounds at present and there are very few actually black artists who do that really well. ie green velvet, rush.
the majority of what has been present on the market is scandinavian, neapolitan, london acid, eastern block and the more 'white' edge as described above.

now before i dig a hole for you all to bury yourself in, or cause mark a headache by starting potentially inflammatory threads we must first all agree:
this is not a race issue as such, the lack of 'black techno' by description is not due to some considered 'white takeover'. it just seems that the market hasnt paid attention to these areas while other trends have flourished.
this is not a racist thread, i didnt read the article, but the cover qoute that i have used to title this thread got me thinking.

what does it make anyone else think?

I think this is because of a demograpghic. Eastern Europeans, ie, the Polish, Russians, Germans etc love techno and have quite a large fanbase and is obviously predominantly a white part of the world, mainly due to Kraftwerk i'd imagine.

The thing is, how can techno not be black?

The curators of the Detroit sound were all black ffs. Mills, Saunderson, May, Craig, the list goes on and they continue to tour the world as much as any white techno artist. Lets not forget Carl Cox and the huge Brand name that he carries all over the world as well.

Personally i think it's well balanced.

[BloodStar]

techno is black, trance is yellow, minimal is khaki,or?

[Technologic]

And after reading most of the thread...

What happened to Primate & Primate Endangered Species, and Djax?

Is that the kind of sound Dave is talking about?

Have they ceased business?

I dunno, but even if they are, i'd still play their tracks, music doesn't have to be new to get a certain sound you want.

[The_Laughing_Man]

Primate blew up and ingested itself up its own rectum

This thread probably should have done the same

[The Overfiend]

This thread is too white, lol.

[DJPAUZE]

And after reading most of the thread...

What happened to Primate & Primate Endangered Species, and Djax?

Is that the kind of sound Dave is talking about?

Have they ceased business?

I dunno, but even if they are, i'd still play their tracks, music doesn't have to be new to get a certain sound you want.

I have seen some of their mp3's on Beatport, I am pretty sure they went belly up with Prime Distribution. I bet Mark has an idea.....

[Technologic]

Yeah, there's some downloads available but that's mostly 2000-7, with a more extensive back catalogue with the classics.

Ashame if they have ceased trading as they were good labels.

And Primevil as well.

Primates myspace is down as well, if i'm not mistaken.

[lunatrick]

seem to remember some bad blood around primate etc going down. Personally I liked some of their stuff however a label can't sustain itself on a tribal bongo beat alone...

[Technologic]

Primate wasn't all tribal, i remember RND Technologies - Mental Propulsion & Melrob - Incessent Sound, thrashed them both and nothing like the tribal sound, mind you, that is early Primate.

[The_Laughing_Man]

SOme of the primate coloured 10 inches were absolutely sublime

[Technologic]

SOme of the primate coloured 10 inches were absolutely sublime

You know that!

[RDR]

This thread is too white, lol.

you need to change forum skin then.

[RDR]

SOme of the primate coloured 10 inches were absolutely sublime

I have the yellow one. its shit.

[The_Laughing_Man]

That was one of the later releases if I remember.
The slighty opaque yellow one?

[clubsynthetic]

who needs funk when you have WONK?

[clubsynthetic]

who needs black when you have white too?

[The Overfiend]

my fav primate was the green michael burkat 10 inch