no it still wont work, just keeps it in the same place, the comps gonna get thashed soon @ this rate, i can get the red bar to move into place by pressing the select next, but nothing appears after paste is pressed , and i can use the orange outline box to select the pattern, but i cant get to the next bit, how do you make the @@:;'#;# thing show the possition where the copyed bit is ment to go ???