The Press

**Si the Sigh** · 11-12-2003, 03:26 PM

...oh yea! i forgot that!! :lol: we love you really Vorney you random fu*ker!! ;) :lol:

**dj vorny** · 11-12-2003, 04:28 PM

DONT U JUST LOVE IT WHEN A PLAN COMES TOGETHER

I AINT GETTIN ON NO PLAIN CORBZ U FOOL

**EmotionComplex** · 11-12-2003, 04:29 PM

hahahaha u nut case

**Hakka.** · 11-12-2003, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by DJ Corbzy

well maybe a blackout mag? :lol:

or perhaps a blackout qoute book of all the cool qoute's and top messages that so many of you post on here for people like me to read and enjoy.

:)

**DJ Corbzy** · 11-12-2003, 06:37 PM

yeah... :clap:

**Carl** · 11-12-2003, 10:08 PM

i voted tell them nothing. lets keep it a secret ;)

**Col** · 13-12-2003, 01:19 AM

dont give the press anything.

press can suck dick for all i care.

**DJ Pearcey** · 13-12-2003, 01:32 PM

tell em to f uck off!

**ninjamark** · 13-12-2003, 07:09 PM

stuff the press

**Louk** · 13-12-2003, 07:21 PM

oi some members of the press are alright (

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**ADDI** · 13-12-2003, 07:38 PM

dont tell them jack shit!!

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**Hakka.** · 13-12-2003, 08:32 PM

I don't understand the question.... or at least I'm having problems with understanding why anyone would want to tell someone where to go who is interested in writing an article about a genre. Surely the best reply would be one that is well thought out and one that can't be mis-interepted.

If a magazine or music paper wishes to express an interest in promoting a scene of music what advantage would a bad attitude take of tell them to f-off achieve? It seems very rude and arrogant. As if to say "sorry, you would just mess things up and give the music a bad image if we let you write about it" ?????? Please someone explain this topic a bit better to me! - I really am not understanding what this is about.

Perhaps I'm completely missing the point, but I think press are better off receiving accurate information rather than being told where to go. I just can't understand that attitude.

People seem to feel commercialism as a some sort death penalty to a genre. It isn't. It's just a term used for when a genre becomes more about being made for profit than for the entertainment. I do not believe commercialism is possible to individual tracks, but possibly to be mis-represented in commercial purposes (i.e tv advertising the best of a CD of a genre).

Just that if I was a journalist and asked a host of music lovers about there genre for a magazine to review and was told to f-off as some of you had put it, I would assume you were a arrogant and selfish bunch. But as I know better, I can only pressume you have some sort of reason for reacting that way, can any of you please explain to me why you would take that attitude when asked for info about the genre you like?????

Sorry, just shocked at some of the negative attitudes here, theres nothing wrong with that just I thought we were a bit more helpful and respectful to the media than that. I admit publicity can go very wrong, but it hardly changes anything to the people involved in the scene, just the people who aren't.

The moment you try to hide something in music and turn it in to a secret the more I think you've missed the point about music.

Please people respond, help me understand your views.

**Hakka.** · 14-12-2003, 08:43 AM

sorry if any of that sounds harsh, I'm not at all having a go at anyone and never will do on this board... ;)

**epidemic001** · 14-12-2003, 03:52 PM

If a magazine or music paper wishes to express an interest in promoting a scene of music what advantage would a bad attitude take of tell them to f-off achieve? It seems very rude and arrogant. As if to say "sorry, you would just mess things up and give the music a bad image if we let you write about it" ?????? Please someone explain this topic a bit better to me! - I really am not understanding what this is about.

Look what happened early this year with the Hardstyle article in Mixmag, Mark eg decided to give them a chance and gave them an acurate description of what Hardstyle is an where it came from, what its influences are etc
What happened? they completely distorted and changed his words to fit a pretty picture that suited them. They didnt give a shit if it was the truth or not.
Surely you havent forgotten that already mate.

(this isnt directed at anyone in particular)
All Ive heard lately on this board is that music is not ours to say who can listen to it an all that crap. So why on earth should it be anyone elses to package & sell off as theirs an make thousands of pounds off.
The way I see it is that we have a right to defend the music we love and work so hard to discover an keep moving. The fact we give up the chance to make loads of money playing the flavour of the month style and instead choose to work 9-5 jobs to get money to pay for records, afford music equipment and put on events for the sound.
Then we see these big international brands come along, sweep it up & sell it as their own. If their success actually helped the people who are involved in scene theyve robbed it would be Ok but it doesnt.

Which in conclusion is effectivly why I dont see any reason to tell the media anything, it doesnt and wouldnt help the true hardtrance scene in anyway whatsoever. It would just help fuel the superclubs and organisations' poor commercial equivilents even more.

**Hakka.** · 14-12-2003, 09:03 PM

Ok, I take that on board, but what blind bit of different did it make except for make Mixmag look like prats?

**Hakka.** · 14-12-2003, 09:06 PM

I mean has hardstyle honestly been effected or changed by mixmag?

**epidemic001** · 14-12-2003, 10:05 PM

Yeah fair enough, as far as I can see it didnt effect Hardstyle.
But surely its an ideal example of why to tell them as little as possible or nothing at all. We need to remember that all theyre doing is lucking after themselves and not trying to help promote other scenes they know very little about.
If they were trying to help I would be more than happy for them to be informed, for example I would have been happy for Wax Magazine to be told as they seemed to be trying to do good, they had an excellent article about what was really happening in the Hardcore scene, something I never saw anywhere else, all the other mags declared it dead and wasnt Mark the editor or something aswell?
Thats the type of promotion the underground scenes need not magazines what are more concerned with what colour thong Fergie wore in February etc etc

**Hakka.** · 14-12-2003, 10:34 PM

I can accept perhaps telling as little as possible, although I fear that is what leads to magazines filling in the gaps themselves.

Although yes, I do agree magazines like Mixmag are a fashion accessory to the clubber more than a decent and reliable source of underground music information.

I don't buy any music magazines except for computer ones, as they don't cater in my opinion for the underground world.

Do any of you honestly buy these mags?

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