I agree with you, mate. I managed to test MASSIVE but what i heard didn't justify the cpu load. It is very hyped as well. I am sure it is a good synth, though, it just wasn't for ME (yet). ABL Pro is a high quality plugin. I liked the Umek's friend preset when i first tried it out. I think this synth never quite got the attention it deserved. AM Synths are often superb and the fact that lots of them are free is a bonus. You can achieve some solid and deep bass with them and they are nicely laid out. Very kind developer, he also offers some free stuff for stylus rmx; free loops and free refills. Respect