Production Methods?

[fatcollective]

Be creative - do things differently, but beware! dont do it that much that you loose your vision you had in the first place :)

good point

[eyeswithoutaface]

well to me even having a template such as that with everything already to go just isnt right, in my opinion of course. I just dont feel it instigates intuitiveness or originality, i feel opening a project with all your favourite things in ready to go is counter productive and just, even little by little, sap's the natural human thirst for progression, development and the need for learning. Providing your the kind of person who has this instilled in them from the start of course. I for one dont want to use the same sends/returns on every track, or have the same effects applied on certain elements such as a synth, that's just not how i work, some synths get totally different treatment than others etc etc but i did mainly mean people who literaly just swap their samples around. It's becoming evermore obvious who does this.

it may seem odd but i dont want to hear 3, 4 identikit tracks on a record in terms of mix and the dynamics, 3 tracks which peak in the same places, have the exact same frequency range, exact same dynamic range etc etc, which is why i always start every single track from scratch, including my sends/returns, samplers etc everything, fresh palette every single time. That's just me, that's how i've always done it and it keeps thing's fresh for me

And of course people start afresh with hardware on every track. Mike Parker is known for not using a computer to program and uses analogue gear that he has to load up every session and work's on his track's until he has a finished track per session, cant save a thing, which i personally think is amazing i could only imagine the kind of creativity that must force out of you, i give every track 100% as it is but that is something else. Props to him

[rhythmtech]

so you're basically saying that you dont have a sampler loaded up in your synth rack ready to go?
seems a little pointless seeing as you're going to load it up anyway :whoops: . basically thats just wasting time isnt it?

and y not have your sends and returns loaded up? surely most of us at this stage realise that its better to stick to 2/3 good reverb/delay etc rather than having a disk full of crap freebies! so whats wrong with having say your waves rverb loaded and ready to go as your send reverb.. its not as if rverb is limited in the sound that can be gotten out of it. and its not exactly hard to change a send to a differant plug-in is it?

[loopdon]

so you're basically saying that you dont have a sampler loaded up in your synth rack ready to go?
seems a little pointless seeing as you're going to load it up anyway :whoops: . basically thats just wasting time isnt it?

and y not have your sends and returns loaded up? surely most of us at this stage realise that its better to stick to 2/3 good reverb/delay etc rather than having a disk full of crap freebies! so whats wrong with having say your waves rverb loaded and ready to go as your send reverb.. its not as if rverb is limited in the sound that can be gotten out of it. and its not exactly hard to change a send to a differant plug-in is it?

ontopic: i have tried so often to get a basic template going as rhythmtech described with verbs etc. readily on the send channels and can see nothing wrong with it but i still start just about everything i do from scratch. The things i start with change as well, don't think i have ever started with a hihat-pattern, though.

offtopic: ''waves rverb'' and ''crap freebies'' in one sentence must be a joke. reverb wise there isn't much choice on the freeverb market but waves absolutely isn't known for it's reverbs. I swear, even in ten years time, when people are asked what they use plugin-wise, you will hear ''waves'' far to often... i reckon it's what you do with it, though.

[fatcollective]

i just knew this thread would turn out like this, thats why i dont post much on BOA anymore! too many uptight people ....eyes!!

[loopdon]

you mean me?

[dirty_bass]

I don`t get all this arguing.
I have no idea what I`m talking about anyway.
I just tell my computer to make music and it does it all for me while I get drunk and shag nuns.

[RDR]

Right then.

As my VERY first act as a moderator here i am asking you ALL to put a stop to this right now.

sure its fun for the first five minutes, but then its all fun and games until someone loses a testicle.

SO.

From now on people in this thread will only do the following

1. List their method of production
2. REFRAIN from commenting on others methods
3. Actually go off and try what others are suggesting.


Back chatting this post will get you a naughty mark mKay?

positive vibes people!

[eyeswithoutaface]

read my post back. I never once said DONT have your sends and other stuff loaded up. I said it's not productive for ME. It's not wasting time at all, but using that method, if i dont need to use a sampler on a track and its loaded when i open my software, then isnt having to get rid of it wasting time too? ;)

it has nothing to do with whatever "level" your at, no one here is at a level as to insinuate that having to sit down for a few mins extra and have another think about using something fresh is going to somehow impede our progress in the techno world mate. I think outside the box of just concentrate on 2/3 certain effects. I'm much happier to concentrate on 5, 6, 7 different variations of 1 effect. What's crap freebies got to do with anything? I very, very rarely use Waves rverb, an amazing plugin of course, but i tend to use my Timeworks and DSP effects more so, i find them more original and better for my tastes.

there's no argument for or against either techniques, to say it's not hard to change a send to a plugin is correct. I never said it wasnt. But on the same hand, it's not exactly hard to just load thing's up as and when needed. Like i say i start every track with a totally blank canvass. Then i go from there, that's just how i prefer it, wether or not i have to spend a whole 30 seconds each time i start a new track loading up an effect really doesnt take much away from the final product

[rhythmtech]

take a chill pill scott.. im asking you personally why you do it that way to try and ascertain your reasons.. it wasnt a rhetorical question:)

[ReakZ]

well i start at basicly from kick then going to bass afterwards some percussion,hats,now experimenting with pads,basslines at low bpm(50-90 or so) then convertating and playin back at usual 130-138

[force]

well i start at basicly from kick then going to bass afterwards some percussion,hats,now experimenting with pads,basslines at low bpm(50-90 or so) then convertating and playin back at usual 130-138

Good idea that.
Slowing things down is a good way of feeling the space between beats and getting things nicely locked in before speeding it up again.

[fatcollective]

well i start at basicly from kick then going to bass afterwards some percussion,hats,now experimenting with pads,basslines at low bpm(50-90 or so) then convertating and playin back at usual 130-138

these are the sort of answers i was looking for, not all this ohh you cant do that because your shit and you your a total cheat blah blah...

nice one, sounds interesting :;

[ReakZ]

hehe always feels good to be more or less helpful,cheers

[judas_beast]

Here's my method;

1- open Cubase
2- see what happens

[audioinjection]

Here's my method;

1- open Cubase
2- see what happens

haha nice one

[p_brane]

lets see, it depends on whether my girlfriend is in.

if she is, then its ear cans in a darkened room late at night

if she's not, its pumping through the speakers in the hope of getting a nice mix.

as far as the process goes,

create a nice chord sequence, riff or beat groove and take it from there

you really cant find me happier than when i'm locked into some hypnotic state creating something, be it a beat or a soundtexture. i had literally 100's of small repetitive pad loops i created on my hdd that i'd go to once in a while to modulate on the fly and zone out, all gone now. (boo hoo)

like jay i dont approach anything with an idea, i just let it flow, whether thats by chance or the subconscious. **** knows. one thing i do know repitition and subtlety make me happy

[eyeswithoutaface]

Here's my method;

1- open Cubase
2- see what happens

most sensible thing in this thread

[The 818 Kid]

Here's my method;

1- open Cubase
2- see what happens

real talk nigga.. lmao

[eyeswithoutaface]

im totally chilled mate, but you do need to word your post's better in that case