tips on hi hat lines

[Jay Pace]

OK

Thats basically a white noise hiss.

Theres two different hats there, one on the beat, one on the offbeat.
Both are drum machine open hihats, the one on the beat has little to no transient so its just the trebly hiss tail thats been sampled. You can achieve this by taking a open hihat sample and just chopping the front of it off.

The second has a slight transient and is on the off beat giving it the "chucka chucka chucka" sound and driving the drums along.

The thing giving the fizz is the position in the mix. There's a lot going on in that track, the lead, the drums etc etc. Space has been made in a busy mix for the hats to fizz along the top. If you want that sound, you need to make a full mix with space for those hats. Otherwise no matter what you do you won't quite get the same effect.

Anyways - the hats themselves are fairly straightforward. A basic 909 or 808 open hat (can be achieved in drumazon easily), two slightly different hats on the beat and the offbeat, onbeat without a transient, then just compress and maybe add a little distortion. Then filter off the low frequencies and make sure your mix is set up to accomodate them.

Sorry if rambling. Boozy lunch
:)

[techno_smack]

cheers jay, that was quite helpful.

cant seem to make them sound anywhere near as good tho

[loopdon]

They sound pretty washed out, as Jay said they have a white noise element. Didn't sound really high to me either (high as in airy), more crusty, midish... analogue :)

This plugin might add to the experience:

http://home.versatel.nl/breebaar/dow...erox/ferox.zip

this -only demo, though, should at least get you into the sound ballpark:

sonitex 1260 from

http://www.otiumfx.com/

or izotope vinyl; or some bitrate reduction. has the feeling of an old, crusty sampler. like old wutang records... deffo not hi-fi and not what i would want my highats to sound like but matter of taste as always.

[Jay Pace]

cheers jay, that was quite helpful.

cant seem to make them sound anywhere near as good tho

Well, its not so much the hats as the mix around them that makes them how they are.

So maybe you need to work on your mix and worry less about your hats? A good mix will see everything fall into place. If your mix isn't balanced you won't be able to get the individual elements right no matter how hard you try.

I spent ages trying to get kicks and hats right before I realised I needed to concentrate on the mix and not the kick/hat etc.