How do I get that full bass sound?

[danielmarshall]

Dan's recipe for tasty a sub sandwich:

Find some fresh double bass jazz samples, pitch shift them down an octave or so and filter with a low pass for some great sub sounds.

[Siege]

Once uve found a bass patch u like and have messed with...when cutting out inaudable frequencys..32,34..over cut..say around 100,then replace with some warming...bbe sonic maximizer,etc....gets your bass sounding a lot fatter.
Dont forget to cut again after processing, keeps things tidy.

[danielmarshall]

Once uve found a bass patch u like and have messed with...when cutting out inaudable frequencys..32,34..over cut..say around 100,then replace with some warming...bbe sonic maximizer,etc....gets your bass sounding a lot fatter.
Dont forget to cut again after processing, keeps things tidy.

Hmmm. I try to stay away from bass processors since I don't have a sub woofer effective enough to give me an accurate image of what I'm doing. I used to run my mix though a Waves maxxbass plugin at the master stage cause it sounded wicked on my monitors at home until I played it out one night... Uggghllllaaarrggghh (that's bad)

[rhythmtech]

im trying not to cut my bass until the very last now.. usually when mastering it..

all i really do is a little notch at around 100 and a slight notch up on the kick at that point too.. find it give keeps the low end lovely and deep.. leave the final eging to the magicians (mastering engineers)

[danielmarshall]

I've also realised that often times the only thing that should be occupying those REALLY low frequency parts of the mix is the tail end of the kick to really have it thump through the bottom end.

Also if you make sure that the decay on the kick is such that it leaves at least 1/4 of a step of silence the track will sound so much punchier rather than just a wall of bass. Bass dynamics matter big time IMO.

[Barely Human]

My advice is keep it simple. I used to spend hours trying to come up with some really fat bass, but then i found that it was usually to over powering and wouldnt balance out in the mix. Make sure the bass compliments your kick drum.

[Siege]

Hmmm. I try to stay away from bass processors since I don't have a sub woofer effective enough to give me an accurate image of what I'm doing. I used to run my mix though a Waves maxxbass plugin at the master stage cause it sounded wicked on my monitors at home until I played it out one night... Uggghllllaaarrggghh (that's bad)

You gotta be careful with that maxxbass...easily over do it...i dont use that anyway.
What i was getting at was, instead of running ur trk through whatever means of processing at the master stage to achieve fattness or warmth....do in the mixdown itself...so if you want a fat bottom end,go and treat the bottom end in the actual mix as appose to relying on mastering tools to do it at the end.
Also my point about warming things up,is just a common proceedure in production and is used on other elements apart from the bottom end.
Im talking subtle...not just wacking up the bass on a bbe or whatever.

[danielmarshall]

If only Amon Tobin could give us some insight into sub bass technique...