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    Default Scratching - A lost art ?

    It seem to me the scratching has no place in modern dance music, is that a good thing or a bad thing ? i used to love a bit of scratching back in the day when i was big on Hardcore & it's sub gener's but then you'd get dj's who'd do a bit over the top of styles like trance which imo didn't work at all.

    Now theirs obviously some styles that still embrace the art (of which i'm not to familier with) so what are those ?. & generally are you a fan of scatching or not ?

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    i think it works sometimes. its not really all that good sounding in techno.. although there are a few that do it well (sterling moss).. but then there are some that do it dreadfully..

    i was at the irish round of the dmc thingy a few years back.. farkin awesome.. but thats turntablism really more than music

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    i used to be into scratching, but not over dance music, for some reason, i never thought it really worked, i left it for the hip hop dj's where beat juggling and scratching were meant for the music

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    I think it's good at times...even with techno...but you just have to be selective about when and how much. The main reason it sounds bad is when people over do it.

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    like dj bam bam......

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    Marc Smith is good at scratching, he does it when playing hardcore and in force 9 sets

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    I think the same goes for turntable tricks in general lately. Not enough people really get down on popping the faders, playing double beats of the same record to juggle and so on. It's easy to do with Techno and it's something really interesting for the crowd to enjoy.

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    I always liked scratching,Gang Starrs Premier or PE`s Terminator X and off course Eric B! For scratching in Techno Murphy and Pest do a good job
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    Quote Originally Posted by messanger View Post
    I think the same goes for turntable tricks in general lately.


    Completly agree, where's all the originalty gone, my gran could beat match but that doesn't mean she was a dj
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    dodgyedgy is a sublime turntablist

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    i can sracth my arse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratron View Post
    dodgyedgy is a sublime turntablist

    Really ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJsmallpaul View Post
    Really ?
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    there is a party tomorrow with Christian Fisher and dj Murphy. I think there will be loot of scratching in their set.. so I am quite curios.. but scratching in techno doesnt make that impact like scratching in hiphop, imo. Hopefully one day I will see ISP crew in action,. my dream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJsmallpaul View Post
    It seem to me the scratching has no place in modern dance music, is that a good thing or a bad thing ? i used to love a bit of scratching back in the day when i was big on Hardcore & it's sub gener's but then you'd get dj's who'd do a bit over the top of styles like trance which imo didn't work at all.

    Now theirs obviously some styles that still embrace the art (of which i'm not to familier with) so what are those ?. & generally are you a fan of scatching or not ?

    Thoughts & discusions please :)
    Obviously you get lots of scratching in Hip Hop, and a fair bit in Breaks and Electro.

    I've heard quite a few D&B DJs scratch.

    It's rarer in Techno, but there are still some people who do it well.

    Space DJz, DJ Bam Bam and Jerome Hill come to mind.

    I definitely think there's a place for it in modern dance music, for sure.

    So long as there are turntables (vinyl or otherwise) there will be scratching.

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    i hate scratching in Techno unless its done really well. Ben Long is the best exponent of the scratch as it were that ive seen Techno wise, but you gotta look outside of "modern dance music" to see the really skilled artists.

    Wait till you've seen Scratch Perverts or Dj Cash Money live, then you'l understand what scratching is really about

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    Quote Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface View Post
    i hate scratching in Techno unless its done really well. Ben Long is the best exponent of the scratch as it were that ive seen Techno wise, but you gotta look outside of "modern dance music" to see the really skilled artists.

    Wait till you've seen Scratch Perverts or Dj Cash Money live, then you'l understand what scratching is really about

    +1

    But as an aside do you think that scratching sounds bad in techno because people are not used to it, or because techno DJs as a general rule cannot scratch properly. or because those who CAN scratch properly prefer not to do it because they dont have the balls?

    Personally i dont believe in boundaries and have a real dislike of preconcieved ideas about 'HOW TECHNO SHOULD BE DJ'D'.

    (im talking generally scott, not at you mate)

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    Quote Originally Posted by eyeswithoutaface View Post
    Wait till you've seen Scratch Perverts or Dj Cash Money live, then you'l understand what scratching is really about
    Scratching in Techno... DJ Kentaro, end of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TechMouse View Post
    Scratching in Techno... DJ Kentaro, end of story.
    wow id forgot about Kentaro. Have an excellent vid on my computer upstairs from a festival, he's amazing.

    but i think as a rule, the reason why scratching isnt as popular in techno is because it's just not one of those techniques that lends itself to the music as well as it does other genres. There is certainly a place for it, but if you notice it does always tend to be incorporated into techno with djs who have that very old skool, hip hop style, fast and choppy, loose (in the good sense), willing to risk things for the mix etc etc

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    not rely a huge fan.. but it does seem lost tho..

 

 
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