manufacturing & distribution

[theledge]

These days a good selling release does 500!!!!

Which you will barely break even on, if you sell all the records.

Unless you are hopelessly infatuated with the idea of running a vinyl label, have thousands of pounds you're prepared to potentially not see again, shed loads of time and determination and probably a good streak of stupidity i wouldnt bother

The future is digital, so you might as well embrace it early

[dirty_bass]

OH... and BE diverse... diversity is a great position to start from, knowing outside the box is far better than thinking outside it. Techno is not the be-all and end all, by its very nature it draws from all other styles of music and can be a breaking ground for new genres in one way or another as long as there are people out there wiht a keyboard and talent.

Marry me

[RDR]

Marry me

no.

[tonyc2002]

learning about the industry through trial and error is good fun. Keep at it and you'll get there in the end.

thats a fair point but i dont want to lose all my money

[rhythmtech]

thats a fair point but i dont want to lose all my money

well dont get into it then

think about digital only.. that wont cost you as much.. just mastering costs.. then if that goes well think about the vinyl end (and a lobotomy!!)

[dirty_bass]

well dont get into it then

think about digital only.. that wont cost you as much.. just mastering costs.. then if that goes well think about the vinyl end (and a lobotomy!!)

Actually the costs can be relatively similar if you are serious about it.
You just transfer your spending from manufacturing to marketing.
It`s a completely different way of thinking, and one I`m still bending my head, and bank balance around.
Now I can pay the artists I want a decent fee for their music, and spend money on advertising, flyers, posters, etc
With vinyl all your money pretty much goes on the plastic, and if you are lucky, you have enough left over to do another. If you are really lucky you can pay your artists more than a few beers.

[rhythmtech]

Actually the costs can be relatively similar if you are serious about it.
You just transfer your spending from manufacturing to marketing.
It`s a completely different way of thinking, and one I`m still bending my head, and bank balance around.
Now I can pay the artists I want a decent fee for their music, and spend money on advertising, flyers, posters, etc
With vinyl all your money pretty much goes on the plastic, and if you are lucky, you have enough left over to do another. If you are really lucky you can pay your artists more than a few beers.

have you ever used those "digital distributers" like intergroove germany.. where they look after getting it onto all the download sites?

was wondering if they're any use..

[tonyc2002]

have you ever used those "digital distributers" like intergroove germany.. where they look after getting it onto all the download sites?

was wondering if they're any use..

ive fired off an email to these guys http://www.digdis.de/ but no reply yet :whoops:

[dirty_bass]

have you ever used those "digital distributers" like intergroove germany.. where they look after getting it onto all the download sites?

was wondering if they're any use..

I`ve just signed a very serious contract for major digital distribution with a good company that really seems to have things in hand.
The marketing tools and promotion tools look great.
Harder work than vinyl, but I think it should reap more benefits.
So no, intergroove germany I haven`t touched, the way they ended their vinyl distribution there is no way I would touch any other type of business they do.

[rhythmtech]

I`ve just signed a very serious contract for major digital distribution with a good company that really seems to have things in hand.
The marketing tools and promotion tools look great.
Harder work than vinyl, but I think it should reap more benefits.
So no, intergroove germany I haven`t touched, the way they ended their vinyl distribution there is no way I would touch any other type of business they do.

arent they a seperate company from intergroove uk? i suppose even if they are the bad name will stick.

[RDR]

Bang on about spending money on marketing.

As for digital distro - getting a good partner is the only way forward.

[RDR]

I`ve just signed a very serious contract for major digital distribution with a good company that really seems to have things in hand.

so did i ;P

[dirty_bass]

so did i ;P

great innit
keeping that under me hat

[acos1]

I am starting a digital label and against my better judgement am going to to release the 1st release on vinyl. I know it is not the smartest idea but it is a idea i have romanticized with for many years.
Seeing as this thread dates back to 2007 i was wondering if any of you guys are still releasing vinyl? If so who presses for you and who distributes? I have heard many good things about Curved Pressings.

[tonyc2002]

Blast from the past!

Well, in the end I never bothered with the vinyl route due to the fact that I would have lost lots of money. But, on the positive side, I formed a digital label instead which is doing well (we've sold over 2000 tracks) and had lots of good advice from people on here to get it started (notably from RDR if memory serves).

I have been doing it since around the end of 2008 and you can see the fruits of my labour here : Elevation Music : Dance Music Forum, Magazine, Underground Music Portal :::

Back to the topic though, I honestly don't know what the vinyl scene is like now....I imagine it's shit. I still have my trusty 1210's (and I doubt I'll ever sell them) but I bought myself a set of CDJ1000's too. All the tracks I buy these days are in digital format and pretty much everyone I know buys digital (at least in the trance scene).

But, if you believe in it, I say go for it! It's only money and you can't take it with you (plus who knows, you may make profit!)

[acos1]

Nice one, looks like your label is goin well for ya man fairplay.