vestax or technic????

[eyeswithoutaface]

some strange views here

when it boils down to it, Technics have a monopoly on the decks market for one reason, because they are the best. They have barely changed in god knows how many years, and thats because they are quite simply, overall, the best deck on the market.

without sounding condescending, ive played some of the biggest clubs in the UK and only once have i had to use anything other than technics, they were Vestax and whilst being good enough, in terms of build, feel, performance etc they just didnt even come close. Vestax are however great decks, but the amount of people i know with dodgy or troublesome Vestax far outweighs that of Technics owners.

and i certainly would NEVER even contemplate switching on a KAM deck, mate really do not waste your money on anything by KAM

[Aratron]

and i certainly would NEVER even contemplate switching on a KAM deck, mate really do not waste your money on anything by KAM

yes i am hearing that. however what if these new Kam decks are really good, i mean i havent tried them, have you?

[RDR]

some strange views here

when it boils down to it, Technics have a monopoly on the decks market for one reason, because they are the best. They have barely changed in god knows how many years, and thats because they are quite simply, overall, the best deck on the market.

without sounding condescending, ive played some of the biggest clubs in the UK and only once have i had to use anything other than technics, they were Vestax and whilst being good enough, in terms of build, feel, performance etc they just didnt even come close. Vestax are however great decks, but the amount of people i know with dodgy or troublesome Vestax far outweighs that of Technics owners.

and i certainly would NEVER even contemplate switching on a KAM deck, mate really do not waste your money on anything by KAM

you missed the point about technics decks.

Try and get a pair of vestax serviced, or even a centre that even KNOWS how to repair them, or will look at them without charging you first.

Parts are available for technics and fairly cheapply to, and they're easy to fit yourself.

thats why technics get my vote.

[Jay Pace]

without sounding condescending, ive played some of the biggest clubs in the UK and only once have i had to use anything other than technics, they were Vestax and whilst being good enough, in terms of build, feel, performance etc they just didnt even come close. Vestax are however great decks, but the amount of people i know with dodgy or troublesome Vestax far outweighs that of Technics owners

I've played at clubs all over the country, and frequently on knackered 1210's with sloppy pitch faders. Part of the problem with their ubiquity is the fact that people are under the illusion that they are indestructible, and therefore never need servicing or the parts replacing.

You can muddle your way round a shoddy technics though, even with a worn pitch fader you can adapt quitckly. Suppose thats why people never bother to service them.

I love my vestax, best deck I've ever played on. The people who ran the rig at my uni were audiophile geeks and its the only thing they would use as part of their ludicrously over-spec'd setup. Also meant getting used to cloud mixers - great for sound, rubbish for performance.

Vestax are arguably better decks from an audio perspective. The later vestax models (pdx d3x, pdx2000) were much better than the original 1210 models. However they just don't have the rugged workhorse feel of technics.

I'd avoid KAM's mate. They're a company built on making cheap copies using low grade components that they can sell as entry level products. Kinda like the behringer of the turntable world. I'd be suspicious of even their premium line of products because of this - their business is cheap and mass market, not quality.

You owe yourself better! Try the vestax, think you might find what you are looking for there if you are tired of technics.

[RDR]

I've played at clubs all over the country, and frequently on knackered 1210's with sloppy pitch faders. Part of the problem with their ubiquity is the fact that people are under the illusion that they are indestructible, and therefore never need servicing or the parts replacing.

You can muddle your way round a shoddy technics though, even with a worn pitch fader you can adapt quitckly. Suppose thats why people never bother to service them.

I love my vestax, best deck I've ever played on. The people who ran the rig at my uni were audiophile geeks and its the only thing they would use as part of their ludicrously over-spec'd setup. Also meant getting used to cloud mixers - great for sound, rubbish for performance.

Vestax are arguably better decks from an audio perspective. The later vestax models (pdx d3x, pdx2000) were much better than the original 1210 models. However they just don't have the rugged workhorse feel of technics.

I'd avoid KAM's mate. They're a company built on making cheap copies using low grade components that they can sell as entry level products. Kinda like the behringer of the turntable world. I'd be suspicious of even their premium line of products because of this - their business is cheap and mass market, not quality.

You owe yourself better! Try the vestax, think you might find what you are looking for there if you are tired of technics.

One thing i cannot abide with the vestax is that blody pitch fader, if you blow on the damn thing it moves, the slightest touch and it flies away.

I know this is a good ting too, but on balance i like a pitch fader with some pressure behind it. This is the reason: When attempting to alter something, a dia or a fader our fingers get tense to ensure maximum muscle control - therefore something that needs a bit of pressure to alter feels like it has more control rather than something sloppy which (athough possibly more adjustable) feels harder manipulate...

my 2p

[Aratron]

I've played at clubs all over the country, and frequently on knackered 1210's with sloppy pitch faders. Part of the problem with their ubiquity is the fact that people are under the illusion that they are indestructible, and therefore never need servicing or the parts replacing.

You can muddle your way round a shoddy technics though, even with a worn pitch fader you can adapt quitckly. Suppose thats why people never bother to service them.

I love my vestax, best deck I've ever played on. The people who ran the rig at my uni were audiophile geeks and its the only thing they would use as part of their ludicrously over-spec'd setup. Also meant getting used to cloud mixers - great for sound, rubbish for performance.

Vestax are arguably better decks from an audio perspective. The later vestax models (pdx d3x, pdx2000) were much better than the original 1210 models. However they just don't have the rugged workhorse feel of technics.

I'd avoid KAM's mate. They're a company built on making cheap copies using low grade components that they can sell as entry level products. Kinda like the behringer of the turntable world. I'd be suspicious of even their premium line of products because of this - their business is cheap and mass market, not quality.

You owe yourself better! Try the vestax, think you might find what you are looking for there if you are tired of technics.

well i have a few bids on at the moment for some PDX 2000 and some Stanton str8 150s.
My two closest friends have the stanton 150 and vestax and i love using either of them over technics.
i quite excited really. on ebay the technics even secondhand seem ludcrously over-priced whilst the vestax and stanton, even those in near mint condiiton go for a steal.