Has all this technology changed for the better?

[the_psychologist]

I was rambling in the Acid forum about dwindling awareness of what's come before.

What I mean is, I don't think anyone really plays classic tracks out anymore, and those tracks are classics for a reason. If no one plays them, no one hears them, and no one uses them for inspiration.

Every art form known to man has some simple rules, and one is: Don't go for complexity until you've mastered the basics. So people get swamped with the digital possibilities and don't think to go back to basics, back to the amazing tracks done in the 90s.

[RDR]

Technology and the way it affects royalty payments.. part of a convo about Apple's manouverings with iTunes licensing. It has relevance here as the second half of the article is about the payments made to record companies for music playing devices.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07...ple_universal/

[Little_Fella!]

personaly im finding the whole time we are in REALLY exciting! i dont think there has been a more exciting time for techno EVER.

People are always the biggest resource in any music scene and i think a break from the past would be VERY healthy for techno right now, and a re-examination of what techno means is necessary.

My definition of techno goes thus:

Electronic music is all techno, there are no boundaries and no internal definitions - DJS should be abe to play all of it within a set without feeling like they are not being cohesive. Producers need to be able to explore their creativity without being stifled by formulae.

Digital music labels and technology allow for that experimentation, the question is - who is going to take the opporunity? The old school or the new school? Abnd a greater question is - will those with slow moving attitudes be able to keep with the changes and welcome them with open arms?

I personally feel this way too...

All these points are bang on and yes, who will allow themselves to embrace what essentially has to be a new era...

[The klubb Krayz]

jesus guyz

you guys are well into this thread i personaly since setting up a digital label am only a cd dj i have gone of vinyl big time you do have to move with the times imo i know its not a big earner producing digital but in a way were yrs in front even tho the capital is low

as for the coments on techno being in the state it is i personaly think it is miles in front of other sceens for example i go some were like global i av mates who like drum and bass mates who like hard house some what like hard style you go in these areanas and there playin stuff what they have been playin for like the past five years and im talkin big names

to me banging floorfiller anthems on is not very creative at all creative to me is playing stuff ppl have never heard new stuff , stuff they may never hear again iv been there thinkin i need this tune and never been able to find it thats the buz the dj gets ( iv got this tune and no 1 else has) thats creativity your either a dj who knows how to rock a dance floor or not simple as ...

now the ableton business if i wasnt writing on a sequencer iv been using yrs id be on it all the time i go on it a hour and need to go back on what i was using before b cos of all the time it takes picking stuff up etc.i wish i had 100 hrs in a day but i wanna go to that new level abelton is the dogs ppl try it if u havent

i dont claim to be no techno expert but i ****in love it big time you lot are into it and probably know well more than i do but come on lets all enjoy it and go wiv the flow wether it is live cdjs or vinyl

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DAVE(KK)

[Jay Pace]

Has it changed for the better?

Depends on your positioning really.

If 20 years on we were still all making tracks exclusively using 303s and 909s the sound would get tired. People would get bored and the crowds and fans would dwindle.

Dance music has always attracted a young crowd, and has a burden of innovation attached to it. If you want to fill the clubs with pretty 20 somethings you need to be doing something new, trendy, cutting edge etc. Techno seperates itself from dance pop by trying to do something new - cutting a trail that mainstream music follows. Its music that belongs in clubs, that drives people to dance. It has a role to play.

I don't think techno is ever going to be a genre thats fixed in one particular sound. I think it represents an attitude more than an objective musical categorisation. Folk music will be probably be identifiable as folk music in 100 years, as it was 100 years previous. Techno 10 years back, loopy aggressive chuga-chuga doesn't have that much in common with a lot of the more melodic, slower stipped down stuff being made today.

But to me its innovation driving change - with technology sometimes prompting innovation.

Worth bearing in mind that the greatest musical leaps of faith were all done
still using classical instruments. Music technology barely moved an inch to accommodate blues, jazz or rock and roll.

People these days get too caught up in instrument worship and forget that they're just tools. Its the artists who change the music.

[TechMouse]

If 20 years on we were still all making tracks exclusively using 303s and 909s the sound would get tired. People would get bored and the crowds and fans would dwindle.

Really?

The guitar / bass / drums combo has been around for for the best part of a century and there are still people pushing boundaries. Rock music may not be your cup of tea, but there is loads of great stuff about.

The impact of your ideas far surpasses the impact of your technology. At the end of the day it's just an enabler. Computers will get faster, technology will get "better", and along with it the scope of what you do will broaden exponentially. But someone with talent will still coax something belting out of ReBirth given a few hours and the right inspiration.

[Jay Pace]

Really?

Yes. The role techno plays requires that it changes and progresses. Use of technology is intrinsic to the sound, and makes techno what it is.

If technology froze and all techno used the same sounds forever it wouldn't really be techno anymore.

Well, not to me at any rate.

[The klubb Krayz]

look at hardcore

i not herd a new toon come out for over 10 yrs i dont like it or nothing but i go out on a thurs nite were i live and theres all these kiddie boppin about to these heart of gold bollox lovin it wtf

if techno stayed the same the new generation will like it its the clubbers who get bored more than the creators

ppl will move on and nothing stays the same!!!!

DAVE(KK)